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Why did there need to be a vote? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by PlogLod@lemmy.world to c/australia@aussie.zone
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If Anthony Albanese, current prime minister, is in support of and vowed to install the Indigenous Voice advisory board, why can't he just do it? He also made a comment beforehand that he would respect people's decision if they vote no, implying that he might be able to override it if he wanted to.

"the PM on Sunday said Labor would “respect the response of Australians next Saturday”.

“If Australians vote no, I don’t believe that it would be appropriate to then go and say, ‘Oh, well, you’ve had your say, but we’re going to legislate anyway’.”

I personally believe that what white Australians want is irrelevant to the fundamental rights that the original owners of this land deserve, and he should have just done it if he was able to.

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[-] billytheid@aussie.zone -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's a silly way of saying undeveloped versus developed. in itself it is a misnomer as Australia still has a backwards, absurdly outdated, colonialist constitution. we're not a developed, or 'first world' state, democratically anyway..

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago
  1. We are a developed nation.
  2. "First world" doesn't mean developed, it means "NATO or NATO-ally during the Cold War". So we are a first world nation. (2nd world being USSR and its allies, and 3rd world being unaligned nations.)
  3. We are a very democratic country. We're not the best in this regard, but top 20 isn't too bad.
  4. Our "backwards, absurdly outdated, colonialist constitution" has no bearing on whether or not we are a developed country. It's a completely orthogonal issue, and is also specifically the subject of this discussion.
[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

“First world” doesn’t mean developed, it means “NATO or NATO-ally during the Cold War”. So we are a first world nation. (2nd world being USSR and its allies, and 3rd world being unaligned nations.)

That's not how it is used colloquially, though. Very few people using these terms in everyday discourse are referring to Cold War era definitions (or are even aware of them).

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