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With a two-letter word, Australians have struck down the first attempt at constitutional change in 24 years, major media outlets reported, a move experts say will inflict lasting damage on First Nations people and suspend any hopes of modernizing the nation’s founding document.

Early results from the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) suggested that most of the country’s 17.6 million registered voters had written No on their ballots, and CNN affiliates 9 News, Sky News and SBS all projected no path forward for the Yes campaign.

The proposal, to recognize Indigenous people in the constitution and create an Indigenous body to advise government on policies that affect them, needed a majority nationally and in four of six states to pass.

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[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here in the European press, I read that many Aboriginals also opposed it. They want recognition, land transfers or compensation.

To really reconcile over past wrongs, I get that. There needs to be something substantive and I think something like that will only be possible when most boomers are gone.

We have similar debates over our colonial and enslaving past.

[-] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Over 63% of indigenous people voted in favour of the voice.

You are repeating propoganda.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, the European press stated that it was around that number, so no propaganda.

If this was really such a great thing for them, they would vote 90+% in favor and the battle would have been to get the rest of the country over 50%.

For example, New Caledonia voted 96% to remain part of France. That's much better as referenda between an ex-colonial power and indigenous populations go.

Seems to me like some better solution must be found that can find a majority support among all Australians and a level of unanimity among indigenous Australians.

[-] vantlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

63% voted for it after one of the strongest, most targeted disinformation campaigns that Australia had ever seen. The right-wing parties have made this issue so incredibly divisive and inflammatory. Anecdotally, some Indigenous people, who did not want to be the target of further abuse from racist Australians, were convinced that the Voice would make the abuse even worse because of the ongoing hate and outrage they have experienced during this entire debate. I can understand why they wouldn't want that experience to solidify constitutionally.

[-] TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds to me like you're being rather racist with your assumptions. You're characterizing a group of people as having monolithic values based on a shared heritage. They're individual people with individual beliefs and motivations. You're also suggesting that they're easily coerced, or perhaps simple minded. This too is racist and demeaning.

Edit: Fixing an autocorrected word.

[-] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter. 63% support among indigenous folks is still a landslide.

You're not arguing in good faith though. Accusing someone of racism like that. So you can go fuck yourself for all I care.

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