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FT: Germany calls for more immigrants to fix its shrinking economy (archive.ph)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6837465

Even though right-wing politicians decry immigration (because it's a populist viewpoint), they secretly or openly want more. Countries without low immigration will lag economically compared to countries with high immigration such as the US.

Original link: https://www.ft.com/content/de913edd-71d1-4a36-b897-091125596952

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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

The integration of the 2015 wave of refugees into our labor market is progressing better than that of the 90s wave of refugees that came from former Yugoslavia did at the same time after immigration. They ARE working if we give them the opportunity. Expecting immediate 100% integration is not realistic.

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[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Conversely, 45 percent of those who fled to Germany in 2015 have not yet entered the labor market.

I am not sure why you think this refutes my argument. It supports it. The employment rate is even worse for those who arrived after 2015, and is incredibly low for refugees of certain countries like Syria and Afghanistan.

For posterity, I am not claiming all refugees don't work. I am claiming many do not work, and immigrants who do not work are making Germany's social problems even worse.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I am not sure why you think this refutes my argument. It supports it.

No it doesn't. They integrate FASTER than others who came before them who were supposedly far closer to our "shared values and culture" (i.e. "not muslims"), and society didn't collapse when THOSE came. And the fact of the matter is this is while we're actively preventing them from working by straight up forbidding it and not processing their requests for work permits.

Did you know: Syria ranks first among countries of origin of foreign doctors in Germany.

[-] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They integrate FASTER than others who came before them who were supposedly far closer to our “shared values and culture” (i.e. “not muslims”), and society didn’t collapse when THOSE came.

You are attacking straw men. I neither claimed the problem is "Muslims" nor that making Germany poorer will collapse society. Please re-read my comments. To repeat myself, this is what I wrote, and your source confirmed that:

Germany needs workers, not people who are illiterate and unlikely to ever work. Germany has accepted a LOT of people of the latter, and it is causing a lot of social unrest.

Did you know that in most European countries, Syrians have some of the lowest rates of employment out of any country of origin? Unfortunately I can't find Germany's demographic stats (I would appreciate a source for yours). Here are the stats for Denmark.

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