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Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said in a briefing early Wednesday morning that no Israeli strike, either by air, land or sea, occurred near Al-Ahli Arab Hospital at the time of the deadly explosion. He added that drone footage, radar information and a recording of Gaza militants indicate a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket was responsible.

He said the Israeli military would soon publish the radar info, footage and a recording of militants in Gaza assigning blame to Islamic Jihad, a group aligned with Hamas. All the information, Hagari said, would be given to President Biden as part of a "full briefing" when the U.S. leader arrives in Israel Wednesday.

Palestinian Ambassador to the U.N. Riyad Mansour accused Israel of carrying out the strike, calling Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a liar for blaming the strike on the armed group Islamic Jihad. “Now they change the story to try to blame the Palestinians. It is a lie,” Mansour said during a press conference at the U.N. headquarters.

Edit: From the IDF’s official Telegram Channel

Post 1:

IDF: A failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization hit the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City

Attached is a video from the IAF system that captured the area around the hospital before and after the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization: https://bit.ly/3M5oQMI

Post 2:

IDF: Following the briefing by the IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari on the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization that hit the hospital in Gaza City:

Attached is the briefing: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810202362

Attached is a recording of a conversation between Hamas operatives regarding the Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch on the hospital on October 17, 2023: https://bit.ly/3S4xqiG

Attached is a visual analysis following the IAF’s examination on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810156854

Attached is an infographic of all the failed rocket launches in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/1810202309876543672

Attached is a photograph from the IDF launch identification system on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC18102023984

Post 3:

Following the recording that was sent out, attached is a transcript of the conversation between Hamas operatives: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC181020238465

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago
[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Was catching up on Al Jazeera English live stream on YT just now and apparently a bunch of Arab foreign ministers are saying the same thing with references to those deleted tweets before this whole Hamas blame game situation started.

I wouldn’t put this past Hamas, but IDF aren’t exactly saints either considering the fact that they are now blocking humanitarian aid from the Rafah border crossing, and are aiming for collective punishment.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Also they’ve literally bombed a hospital in Gaza and blamed it on Hamas misfiring in 2014.

So we know for a fact they are not above this.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Huh, wondered why yours sounded different but it was apparently one of three hospitals hit in that round of Israeli attacks.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As we said, this is normal everyday Israeli war behavior...

Israel has already killed so many UN staff in the current 2023 war on Gaza...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/11/world/un-gaza-funding-deaths-intl/index.html

CNN —

At least 11 United Nations employees have been killed in Israeli airstrikes in Gaza since the weekend, the UN said Wednesday, even as it called for emergency funding to continue humanitarian work in the embattled Palestinian enclave.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think if you're able to believe that Hamas killed 500 people at a hospital, why isn't it easier and simpler to believe Israel bombed them? Israel does it all the time... Hamas' track record of shooting its own people comes only from Israeli propaganda.

I wouldn't put it behind them either... but first and foremost my eyes will turn to the IDF. One cannot trust an apartheid state. Israel had been killing civilians in the area for over a week now... no reason to believe they would stop at a hospital given then fact that they actually damaged several medical facilities since this started in Gaza.

[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oh I absolutely know what Israel is capable of if the last year alone (not even counting from the start of the occupation) an indication of how low they can go. I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt to try and maintain some sense of neutrality.

The shooting of Shireen Abuakleh, the killing of the Reuters journalist a few days back, the “settlers” killing and torturing people in the West Bank, the Al Aqsa instigations and “raids”, I mean, we’re not even at the tip of the iceberg here.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was just giving them the benefit of the doubt to try and maintain some sense of neutrality.

Sadly in these times, this can also easily turn into a propaganda weapon. It becomes more and more difficult to confirm any news, but Israel saying it was a militant group (Islamic Jihad in this case) is a classic Israeli move.

The shooting of Shireen Abuakleh

I bet money that the majority of these were deliberate attacks. I'm sure "accidents" happen all the time, but when we keep finding dead journalists clearly marked as PRESS, we gotta ask ourselves...

I was thinking about this all yesterday. How would this problem be settled? Maybe a third-party observer or analyst should investigate the hospital and the footage. Would Israel allow this? No fucking idea.

And worse of all, this hospital is not government-run, so not a "Hamas" hospital., it was a Christian-led medical facility.

Edits: grammar and typos

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

How do we even know that 500 people died at the hospital?

[-] snek@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

We'll have to wait for the full number, seems like this was an estimate.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 6 points 1 year ago

That sounds like overly eager psychopath claiming whatever they want though. and it's a former staff.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's also a screenshot of a tweet. Incredibly easy to fake that.

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