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This makes no sense to me. There's people in the comments literally telling me to go kill myself and that's fine but, me politely disagreeing is worthy of a 30 day ban.

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[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People of Lemmy,

I see more and more toxic behaviour here. I get that this war/conflict gets to us. And everyone has strong opinions and the debate is emotional. But it reminds me more of the toxic atmosphere that used to be part of Twitter.

I suppose the mods of political communities are having a bad day since the conflict escalated. And they are part of the debate, sometimes maybe making their decisions emotional, instead of neutral and based on reason alone. I -personally- think a 30-day is a lot, even if it is spreading misinformation. But I didn't have a look at the facts here.

Judging by your comments in general, you seem quite an argumentative person. I usually don't like people focusing on negativity and (for example) debunking a single argument out of a post and then concluding they're right and someone else is entirely wrong. It leads to us having unproductive and stressful conversations, once we manoeuvre ourselves to opposing sides that lose the ability to communicate productively and grasp the bigger picture and the context that things are set in.

So. Please whoever is in the right or wrong, make Lemmy a nice place and not a clone of the toxicity and argumentativeness on Twitter. And don't yell at people too much.

OP, please be aware you're often a very argumentative person and a big part of your way of talking to people is opposing them.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

please be aware you’re often a very argumentative person

I'm well aware of that. It's the reason I'm on Lemmy on the first place. I love a good, long debate but I still try and be polite and listen to the counter-arguments and engage with what people are saying instead of attacking them as a person.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

debate my asshole out of killing itself with this absurdly large dragon sex toy

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Judging by the comments here, I'd say it isn't working. (That doesn't mean it's necessarily your fault at this point.)

All I want to say is: You and the people outright attacking you here are setting the tone of the conversation. I don't feel entitled to lecture anyone on how to spend their time on the internet. For me, this thread is too toxic and not my vision of what Lemmy should be like.

Unfortunately, the really toxic people have arrived here, targeting you and spreading hate. I don't think this going to become a productive conversation after that. And I really don't have good advice here. I'm going to flag the comments that are hatred and then I'm out. I'm going to focus on some more productive things somewhere else. I wish you the best. Hope Lemmy strives to become a space for diverse opinions, constructive debate and not hatred and small-mindedness.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

B-but I just want to have a civil debate about why genocide is ok, why won’t anyone be nice to me? Wyahhhhh, such toxicity! People are so small minded if they can’t accept ethnic cleansing :(

[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a user in this thread calling us the genocide deniers while Israel unceasingly and unrepentantly destroys Gaza and its people. Like. No self awareness. No historical awareness. Just 'Oh I have a more nuanced view of the situation'. Nuance my fucking gooch.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's only ever the whites going to bat for Israel's commission of genocide, too-- why? Because what Israel's doing is 1:1 with what the colonizer pilgrims did to America. So no, I am never going to support that; because given my way, my lineage NEVER would've been stolen by crackers in the first place. I'd rather still fuckin be Afrikan than have to be lumped in with these murderous settlers.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dudes, Duderinas and people from all around... While I said something in the meta-debate here, I'm not engaging in the underlying argument. What are you trying to accomplish here? The people you are talking about are suffering horrible atrocities. All you can think about is hating on each other on the internet... (There has to be a better way to deal with the situation.)

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Is pineapple good on pizza? <— a debate

Are human rights guaranteed to all humans? <— a fucking ghoulish question that you deserve to be mocked for “debating”

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

I've asked what the mocking itself accomplishes.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Social sanction has been a part of human community dynamics since we first progressed past grunts and gestures; and you're gonna ask a sealioning question like that.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Have you asked the same question about your disingenuous hand wringing? 🤔

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, can you please re-phrase that question?

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I’ve asked what the pearl clutching itself accomplishes.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need to dumb it down a bit if you want me to understand. Give me a bit of context. Who is doing what?

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

You need to dumb it down a bit if you want me to understand

You can’t set me up like that, I’m tapping out. Someone else explain basic human decency to this person, plz.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes please, don't do brigading but I didn't get you. And you kind of 'answer' questions with different questions.

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