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Grayjay is not Open Source (hiphish.github.io)
submitted 1 year ago by rglullis@communick.news to c/foss@beehaw.org

Today FUTO released an application called Grayjay for Android-based mobile phones. Louis Rossmann introduced the application in a video (YouTube link). Grayjay as an application is very promising, but there is one point I take issue with: Grayjay is not an Open Source application. In the video Louis explains his reason behind the custom license, and while I do agree with his reason, I strong disagree with his method. In this post I will explain what Open Source means, how Grayjay does not meet the criteria, why this is an issue, and how it can be solved.

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[-] 18107@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago

I thought that open source just meant that you could read the source.

[-] chameleon@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

"Open source" has more or less always meant something very specific as defined by the Open Source Definition. Adding restrictions on top like no commercial use or no lawsuits turns it into "source available".

[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

It's how I intuitively read it too, even after decades of being exposed to tech, software, and licenses.

There's the OSI Open Source Definition, which is a free software definition.

I think the free terminology is clearer because free as in beer vs freedom is more obvious. Either it has a price or it doesn't. The Libre term is rather common alternative because of the ambiguity. The free as in beer or freedom is a common easy to understand explanation.

There's no such things for open source. In my subjective experience at least. "Source available" did not establish like Libre. Open is way more broadly ambiguous than free. And whether a license is open or open needs a full understanding and interpretation rather than only 'does it cost or can I use it for free.

Free is a dualist ambiguous differentiation. Open is broadly ambiguous and hard to verify.

this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2023
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