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[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

too powerful to be shipped to China

Ummm, isn't that where they were manufactured?

[-] lemming@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

Taiwan is an independent country. Any claim the PRC has over taiwan is historical revisionism.

Revisionism, no.

Irredentism, yes.

Imperialism, yes.

[-] Goldoad@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Found the person that doesn't know recent Chinese history or even basic political positions of the involved parties but thinks their opinion matters.

They also don't know what irredentism is and think commies don't mind being accused of imperialism.

Both nations follow a One China policy. Meaning, in effect, they both claim to be the rightful ruling government of China.

Irredentism is the advocation of the return of historical territory, usually used as a justification for conquest through force.

Taiwan was conquered by the Qing Dynasty from Dutch colonialists in 1683. It was lost to Japan after the 1st Sino Japanese War in 1895, and regained in 1945 following the Second Sino Japanese War, which had become part of WW2.

In 1949, the ruling party of the KMT finished getting their asses kicked by the communists, because Chiang Kai-Shek was a borderline fascist himself who sucked ass in every way and deserved to be overthrown after pissing off everyone in China.

The remains of the KMT fled to their newly regained territory in Taiwan, because they still controlled the small Chinese navy and the USSR couldn't loan Mao an invasion fleet without starting WW3, as the KMT was technically a victorious member of the Allies.

There is no revisionism. Taiwan has been Chinese territory for 400 years, except for a small blip of being conquered by the Japanese, who were real pricks about it, btw.

Taiwan does not call itself Taiwan. It calls itself the Republic of the China, and has become a strongly democratic republic in truth after the KMT was given the choice of allowing other parties or losing American support. As far as they consider things (at least from a political perspective), the PRC is a undemocratic usurper state, temporarily in control of their rightful territory, the vast majority of the rest of China.

Which you would know, if you had any insight or knowledge of the situation.

Now if you want to argue that no one bothered asking what the indigenous Taiwanese people have thought for this whole period, and they should be liberated from Chinese colonizers, the only vaguely reasonable position that doesn't recognize that Taiwan is Chinese territory, feel free. I'm sure the world will get right behind you sending the 19.5 million ethnically Chinese Taiwanese people back to the mainland.

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