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[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 16 points 11 months ago

Weapons usable in war should be as easy to get as notebooks and pens. Or at least as smartphones. Then we'll see some kind of peace

The one country in which this is a reality shows the exact opposite. There's more small scale hun violence in the USA as any other place in the world. It's not even close.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 11 months ago

I think you've just demonstrated inability to read. I literally said that there'll be more crime with such instruments involved, but fewer large-scale wars.

And I wasn't talking about small arms, I was talking about FPV drones, small mortars and other such things.

[-] steltek@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

You were applying "a well armed society is a polite society" to geopolitics. I disagree. Weapons are what you fall back on after all the other options have failed. A "ballot box, jury box, ammo box" sort of deal.

Education and tolerance are the tools of peace. If your leaders are extremists who can't compromise, pointing fingers for who you should hate more, jump to labels and teams, and issue ultimatums rather than dialogue, then you are on a road to war.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 11 months ago

Weapons are what you fall back on after all the other options have failed.

Again you may, others may not think this way. It takes only one side to start a war.

Education and tolerance are the tools of peace.

Because real education and real tolerance make you stronger in war.

If your leaders are extremists who can’t compromise, pointing fingers for who you should hate more, jump to labels and teams, and issue ultimatums rather than dialogue, then you are on a road to war.

You are also on a road to war indefinitely if this is how the neighboring society's leaders are.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah if there's anything the united states isn't involved with its large scale wars...

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 11 months ago

Which is irrelevant, because USA is not an illustration of my proposition. #2

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

You see the main weapon of war is capital. It's hideously expensive to wage war, that's why it's not for individuals. Whatever weapons you have you won't have the ability to wage any kind of war against your country of origin. Whatever weapons you buy.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 11 months ago

It’s hideously expensive to wage war, that’s why it’s not for individuals.

You haven't been paying attention in the last few years. Most effective innovations of modern war (and that's not what Northrop-Grumman or IAI advertise, that's what Shia combatants in Syria, Ukrainian military in, well, Ukraine, etc actually use to fight their enemies) are very cheap.

Anyway, it's not unheard of in history of wars for a completely outclassed economically side to emerge victorious.

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