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Elon Musk says 'we dug our own grave' with the Cybertruck as he warns Tesla faces enormous production challenges::Tesla CEO Elon Musk said Wednesday that the Cybertruck's unique design means the company faces immense challenges in scaling production.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's got a lot of new things to them

800v power train

Newer 4680 cells

~85% custom chip controllers (up from 60s on Y)

48v power electronics instead of 12v, which is fairly new to everyone and the supply chain isn't as robust as the 12v one, but long term it's good for industry. (Edit I've heard talk of how they connect everything is going to be very different too, but nothing I've seen confirmed)

Folding the stainless steel at scale

9000T press, biggest one made

The wheels that can turn on front and back

New assembly method (excluding stainless steel part)

I'm sure there's more they didn't tell us.

It went from being a weird vehicle (love or hate it) to a new technology platform.

[-] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

How is 48v better than 24v, for example? I don't really know much about car electronics

[-] burgers@toast.ooo 9 points 1 year ago

ok i work in a kind of tangential industry and can kind of answer this probably

in general the higher the voltage the smaller the current, which you're generally happy about because your 1) electrical losses and 2) cable/wire diameter are both proportional to current

the tradeoffs being 1) it gets harder and more important to isolate the circuit (e.g. your wire insulation that prevents the 12V bus from shorting out to the vehicle chassis now needs to be thicker) and 2) all the stuff people make for cars (i dunno, windshield wiper motors, radiator fans, whatever) is currently for 12V

in general this move probably makes sense, provided they're able to figure out their supply chains, and if tesla can position themselves as being like the first company to figure out a bunch of these 48V components at scale that's probably going to be really good for them. they did a kind of similar thing with the charging infrastructure if i understand currently, like now the tesla charging cable is the de facto north american standard

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

insulation

I'm no expert, but even with ordinary 12V wiring, the insulation is generally rated for up to 600V, just because it's not really practical to make it any thinner...

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