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‘Are we screwed?’: Anguished House GOP seeks fourth speaker pick
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I feel like this is exactly what the most disruptive members are wanting. Maybe I'm just being cynical and this is way off point, but it feels to me like they want a non-functioning federal government. This entire shit show is the plan. The wrench in the gears.
It's more than "the most disruptive" members of the GOP. It wouldn't take but a handful of reasonable members to vote for Hakeem to get out of this rut. Of course, they probably wouldn't get elected again, even though not doing so will cause serious damage to the country.
I don't expect them to put country over party, just like I don't expect them to put country over their jobs. Too cowardly.
Imagine the opposite and The Squad was preventing Democrats from electing a Speaker until they get a promise to do X far-left thing. Would you really think the "reasonable" Democrats should just send 5 votes to Jim Jordan to get the Speakership finalized?
It's just an insane idea to think anyone would give the opposing political party power rather than literally anyone from their own party. It's not a reasonable ask.
At this point I think we are likely to see Democrats make a deal for extra committee seats in exchange for the last few votes to get a moderate elected, eventually, but there is a zero percent chance a Democrat becomes Speaker.
You think Democrats would turn down an opportunity to work with Republicans and against progressive members of their own caucus?
Manchin and Senima already have
As a counter-point: every House member goes up for re-election every two years. So lets say the moderate House Republicans vote Jeffries in.
A possible complication: I don't know, does that stupid "anyone can ask to vote you out of office" rule stay in place? In which case, Jeffries probably doesn't last a full year (I think the rule says that once moved, the next item of business has to be the vote. And the disruptors would just keep moving the motion).
Regardless of the vote-him-out situation, Jeffries would still be working with a Republican majority that really doesn't want to be seen working with the Democrats, so I'm not sure how much would actually get done, other than a budget (which, granted, is very important). And then next fall the moderate Republicans are all voted out of office and maybe replaced by more MAGAts.
Is a possible advantage lasting just a few months worth the permanent loss of some Republican moderates? Especially with Biden running for re-election and unlikely to do much that will disrupt his chances?
I'm not good with political math, nor do I know all the possible detailed repercussions, , but it's something to think about.
Maybe but I really think they thought they could hold the position hostage. That moderates would kowtow to their whims rather than not function.
Well, theyre ideology consists of "not what democrats want." They aren't for anything, only against progress or human rights/equality.
To hear them tell it, government is the enemy, incompetent, and worse at anything it attempts. Unless they're in charge and levying it against their opponents, of course.
They're in a race to prove themselves right so they can go "sEe????"
But also hate on brown people
The Israel war really puts that on a back foot. They can't just wait on the shutdown and do nothing. They are being hammered on all sides for our inaction as Israel support is popular in both parties, and it's crystal clear whose fault not getting aid is.
Diehards wont give a shit, but independents do pay attention to dysfunction. The GOP are such a shitshow of gossiping Hyena's, the media is all in on displaying it too, which helps tons.