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The British Mandate of Palestine (which was not a state), arose because of the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. Palestine has literally never been a country, in all of human history. There were Jews living there at the time, too.
The only people who have ever seriously tried to make Palestine a country are the Israelis (and by proxy the US/UN)
Gaza and the West Bank were parts of Jordan and Egypt, lost during the 6 Day War, so even then the area we call Palestine wasn't Palestinian. Israel gave them the territory, and was under no obligation to do so.
Again being an officially recognized state has nothing to do with it. You act like colonized people have no inherent right unless the UN recognizes them as a state. That is not only false but laughably absurd.
You've created a completely arbitrary rule that demonizes Arabs for really racist reasons.
Palestine was recognized by the people who lived their as theirs. For thousands of years. Doesn't matter if it was ottoman or England. Those Palestinians were there until English decisions pushed them off the land.
Those are facts u can't dispute.
You said they took over someone's country, and that never happened. I certainly didn't bring up a factually-incorrect point and argue against it.
This is an extreme oversimplification that also denies there were many ethnic groups in the region. There was no "Palestinian" identity for those thousands of years.
I strongly support a two-state solution and Palestine becoming a country for the first time ever. Hamas does not.
Now you're just being pedantic. Yes in 1948 what was considered Palestine wasn't an official country as recognized by the UN.
Again. None of that is relevant.
The people who were there were forced out to make way for a un recognized "state."
You're pretending like it's ok because the UN didn't recognize this area as a state already...despite the fact it was widely recognized by everyone else who actually lived there to be what we now call Palestine.
You could make the exact same argument for how the Germans treated the Jews... Makes you realize you're the bad guy here doesn't it.
This is fuckin ridiculous man.
Some light reading, that may perhaps educate you on the significantly longer and more complex situation that you like to pretend - like the fact that the area was majority Jewish before Israel existed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
I'm not sorry the Ottoman Empire was dismantled. Though their culture impresses me, the rest of their history does not.
Keep siding with apartheid
If you knew what apartheid meant you'd know how fucking dumb that line is.
Consider actually educating yourself. It's not hard.
No one cares what people who side with oppressors think.