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[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The technology isn’t presented as magical..?

Kyber crystal? Hyper lanes? FTL? THE FORCE? Star Wars is sci-fi in flavouring only. There’s no sci in that fi at all. And that’s ok, that’s not the point of the stories.

[-] amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Star Wars is technically more a space opera than a sci fi.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Space opera is sci fi.

As a note… in many countries and languages there is no distinction between fantasy and sci fi. Sci fi is just modernist, scientificism inspired fantasy. Eventually hard sci fi came to be, and overtook most of the genre, but there are no requirements for sci fi to “make scientific sense”. It just has to have space, robots, lasers etc.

I mean, if you go by how the genre was born and all.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Everything but the force is explained in similar ways to any other sci-fi tech. And the force isn’t tech, it’s space magic. Just because it’s not an explanation we can use in real life doesn’t mean it’s not being presented as part of the natural world of that reality.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe I’m uninformed. What are the scientific explanations for lightsabers and kyber crystals? For hyper lanes and FTL?

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

FTL is achieved by using manufactured engines to propel a ship faster than the speed of light.

Hyper lanes are created by doing an FTL jump and not running into any hazards, designating the path you just took as a hyper lane.

Kyber crystals seem to be an intersection between technology and magic from my research though so you’re half right here. The crystals are naturally forming conduits that channel magic force energy and vibrate to generate the blade of the weapon.

All of these things were researched in the last 5 minutes. You could’ve known this stuff yourself if you actually felt like looking it up.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don’t you think saying “they can go FTL by building engines that go FTL” is not very scientific?

That isn’t an actual scientific explanation.

But that’s not the point of Star Wars. Sure a lot of stuff that is now Legenda did try to make a bit more sense of things. But never too much, because it would take away the magic of it.

It feels like a medieval fantasy world of knights, dark wizards (and racism I guess), but in space. Too much science would lose the fairy tale vibes.

It’s like expecting Dune to explain the physics behind the “Voice”. Dune is supposed to be this incomprehensible and distant tale, like reading from the first papyri from Egypt. It’s supposed to be mysterious and familiar but alien. Diving into the “science” of things in the way we understand science would kill the vibe.

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you think dune was pretty unscientific for not describing the chemical makeup of spice. Still a science fiction story. You don’t have to spell out every detail of a tech for it to be scientific in a fictional story. You seem to understand this in bringing up dune even.

What medieval fantasy world has world war 2 styled flying combat? I think your read is way off base. It’s science fantasy, a blend of common fantasy and sci fi. There are attempts to give scientific explanations to concepts that aren’t magical like FTL and there are mystical explanations given for things that are magical like the force.

Bottom line is that even fantasy needs some grounding or the story becomes uninteresting and hard to follow. It’s a space fantasy but that doesn’t mean technology is absent from the world.

Btw the explanation I gave for FTL is what was said if it in the original trilogy so don’t act like it’s not firmly established.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it’s science fantasy. I mean that’s what I also meant by sci fi and fantasy being under the same category in many countries and languages.

Sci fi is not about scientific accuracy. It was born in the time of scientificism, of science as a mystical force almost. Sci fi is more about space lasers and robots than science.

Hard sci fi that actually takes science into account is a later development.

Star Wars is closer to the “traditional” sci fi ideas than hard sci fi. And that’s the only thing I was saying.

this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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