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[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

none of this contradicts what I said. government enforced monopolies are wrong.

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The contradiction is that you imply copyright is always a government enforced monopoly. It can be, but it usually isn't, especially with art. So using it as a counter argument here makes no sense.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

copyright is always a government enforced monopoly.

that's the only thing it is. it's a law that grants exclusive rights to sell. how do you think it's not in relation to art?

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exclusive rights and monopolies are not the same thing. Monopolies are about access to a category of things or services that fulfill a need, not one specific thing. E.g. Samsung has exclusive rights to sell Samsung TVs, but they don't have a monopoly on TVs, and talking about a monopoly on Samsung TVs specifically makes no sense. Similarly no one has a monopoly on landscape drawings, rock music or scifi movies, just exclusive rights to specific pieces of art or literature that they created.

As a side note, patents are a different story imo. Because overly broad patents can actually give you exclusive access to an entire category, and therefore a real monopoly. But you can't patent art.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

your Samsung example is trademark. it's not copyright.

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because the example is not about copyright in particular but monopoly vs exclusive access. I wanted one that's not about art to illustrate the point, and the priciple is the same in this regard.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

trademark has nothing to do with copyright. they're two sets of laws that developed a two different times for two different reasons.

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, what does that have to do with the exclusive rights vs monopoly discussion? Both give you exclusive rights, doesn't matter that they come from two different sets of laws.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

trademark is a consumer protection. copyright is a fucking monopoly.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

do you know how I know that you aren't a copyright lawyer?

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