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I'm fucking done with Chrome. Fuck this.

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[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Btw, most emails are not end to end encrypted on proton. Only emails from/to other proton users or emails sent/received using their “password-protected emails” feature and of course any emails sent/received from anyone that’s using openPGP.

I know that, but I'm talking about the emails that are stored in your inbox, not incoming/outgoing messages.

Also the free tier only includes 500 MB of storage which is extremely little

I've been using Proton Mail since 2020 and so far I only used ~100MB.

it also doesn’t include IMAP support

Because it's impossible to offer IMAP when all the messages are encrypted. They would have to decrypt your messages on their servers in order to allow you to connect via IMAP. Proton Mail offers a workaround though, you can download their Proton Mail Bridge application on your computer, which will locally decrypt the messages and create a local IMAP server that you can connect to with your Email client of choice. That way, the unencrypted messages never leave your computer.

it also injects ads into your sent emails which is stupid

Uh, no. Where does Proton Mail inject ads? That's only something that Google would do. If you mean the signature, Apple has been doing the same thing for over a decade. It's not really ads though, it's just a short string of text saying 'Sent from Proton Mail'. It's added before the message is sent though, so you can just delete it. Apple does the same thing, if you send an email from an iPhone it will say 'Sent from my iPhone' in the Email signature.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I've been using Proton Mail since 2020 and so far I only used ~100MB. How? My account from 2019 with just two pages of emails (all of which are newsletters and ads from Proton) is using 64 MB.

All my emails in Gmail are 2,7 GB and of course I would want to import them, what's the point otherwise.

Because it's impossible to offer IMAP when all the messages are encrypted. They would have to decrypt your messages on their servers in order to allow you to connect via IMAP. Proton Mail offers a workaround though, you can download their Proton Mail Bridge application on your computer, which will locally decrypt the messages and create a local IMAP server that you can connect to with your Email client of choice. That way, the unencrypted messages never leave your computer.

Yes, I know. I thought I said that earlier.

The workaround isn't possible to use with a free account.

Uh, no. Where does Proton Mail inject ads? That's only something that Google would do. If you mean the signature, Apple has been doing the same thing for over a decade. It's not really ads though, it's just a short string of text saying 'Sent from Proton Mail'. It's added before the message is sent though, so you can just delete it. Apple does the same thing, if you send an email from an iPhone it will say 'Sent from my iPhone' in the Email signature.

Yes, that is what I mean. I don't know about Apple since I don't use anything from Apple, but you can't turn off the footer with a free proton account.

It's clearly an ad for Proton. I have nothing against it except that it's impossible to turn off. Also it's stupid to have those for the web app, as they are meant for the receiver to know that you're on a mobile and maybe can't respond.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Well, all of those issues would be solved by Proton Mail Plus for 3,50€/month ($4). For Gmail, you pay with your data.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I know. I just don't know if it's worth 4,99 €/month

[-] moonwalker@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago

@netchami @lud you can bypass no imap thing with electronmail, which is an unofficial protonmail app electron style.

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Hydroxide is another option. It's basically the Proton Mail bridge, but it doesn't require the paid plan.

[-] moonwalker@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago
[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, I didn't know that. Last time I used hydroxide in 2021, now I just the the Proton Mail Bridge.

[-] moonwalker@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago

@netchami looks like hydroxide works for now, but you can view your email offline with electronmail as well

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Ok, thanks. I've known about ElectronMail, but I never actually tried it. It also seems to support Tutanota?

[-] moonwalker@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago

@netchami I don't think it does. I don't see any options to add a tutanota account and tutanota has their own application anyway

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Well, I found this article from 2020: https://itsfoss.com/electronmail/. It suggests that ElectronMail also supports Tutanota, but it might have been removed since then.

[-] moonwalker@infosec.exchange 0 points 1 year ago

@netchami that might be the case, since tutanota has an appimage now

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago
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