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[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The “culture” stuff really escalated in my lifetime. I’m 41 and when I was taught about guns (around age 12 or 13), it wasn’t anywhere close to this political. The NRA existed and had power but it wasn’t a corrupt wing of the Republican Party like it is now. There wasn’t a centrally-driven campaign for unlimited concealed carry or automatic weapons.

My memory is that things changed after Columbine. Democrats tried to pass gun control bills and it sort of split the party. Those votes were used against rural Democrats in subsequent elections and the party decided the issue was radioactive. When Sandy Hook happened, it was clear national Democrats had no intention of going against the arms lobby.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

52 here and I'm right with you on every point. These kids growing up in a post-Columbine world don't get what it was like. SO much was different.

centrally-driven campaign for unlimited concealed carry or automatic weapons

Nope. Gun rights people act like every tiny thing is a slippery slope. And they're right in many ways! But FFS, our rights are hardly moving backwards regarding conceal carry. (GIF takes a moment to start.)

The AR-15 thing is funny to me. Never wanted one until libs started screaming "BAN!" after Uvalde. Fine. I'll get mine and get grandfathered. Turns out, they're a blast to shoot and far more horrifying than non-shooters know. Anyhow, my fellow libs literally sold me a gun. Good show?

By "automatic weapons" I assume you mean AR-15s and the like? Yeah, we've basically always had those. By that I mean, the US population has always had better rifles than standard military issue. (I've been told the presenter is right-wing, so take the video as you will. None the less, it's factual and eye opening.)

In any case, I foresee fascism coming to America soon, very soon. Any student of pre-WWII Europe can see this. I've oft argued that it's already here, they're just not knocking doors ATM. POC, LGBT+ and women are the largest gun purchasing demographic, because they see the writing on the wall.

I vote D, all the way down to dog catcher, but simply refuse to be disarmed.

(LOL, that's either a "manifesto" or "TED Talk", not sure which.)

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Nah, man, I feel you. You’re getting downvoted but I have friends that got into shooting and they never glorified it or thought it meant anything political. They hunt with bows half the time and are way more proud of those kills. Guns aren’t their identity.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it gets to the death squad stage where they are knocking on doors, I have no idea what an arsenal will do, though? It's not like they won't have tanks and a whole array of weapons. Also, all the magoos will likely be let loose to do their worse, too - it's not like that arsenal will be used to fight off an actual tyrannical government. Sure, those at risk might be able to fight off the randos looking to carry out some violence against them, but against an organized fascist government?

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