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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

I guarantee you don't want a private company like Amazon handling gun confiscation, public policy should not be up to private companies to enforce. Might as well ask people to drop off their guns at the local WalMart and ask untrained staff to deal with them. No good will come from it.

Elections are a different deal because all you're processing is bits of paper and data, you aren't running the risk of, you know, explosive ordinance.

Even if we had the logistics, which we don't, there's still the 2nd amendment to contend with. We can't force people to give up their guns, that's a right the Australians didn't have.

Repealing the 2nd Amendment can be done, but it starts with 290 votes in the House. You did watch the struggle it took to get the 217 they needed to elect their own leader, right?

[-] User_4272894@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I didn't suggest Amazon run the process. I just meant "logistics infrastructure exists on a scale unimaginable in 1996". 600 million COVID doses given out in the US might have been a better comparison. Or 7.2 billion packages by USPS in 2022. There are 708k cops in the US. That's 2 guns recovered per cop per month to have it done in 90 days.

There is literally no argument in the world where "the logistics make it impossible" is a reasonable claim.

Likewise, "we'll never get 290 votes" is a lazy and cowardly claim. Yes, it'll be hard. Yes, it'll be a fight. Yes, we'll have some minds that will be impossible to change. But your apparent argument in defense of gun rights seems to be "aww, jeez, it seems pretty tricky" which is truly mind boggling to me.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's not that it will be hard, it's that this is the same body that took 22 days to build a simple majority to decide who their own leader is. 290 is out of reach.

That same speaker, BTW, has already said he won't allow gun issues to come to the floor.

The Republicans will not vote for it, which is the majority. Some Democrats won't vote for it either. It's a dead issue.

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