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In some sense, yes, but only if you ignore the fact that Palestinian armed forces explicitly want to kill all Israelis in their path. This was the goal in 1948, it was the goal 50 years ago in 1973 in the last Yom Kippur war, and it's the same goal today. I don't see that as better or worse than what we have now, it's still one side set on killing everyone they oppose to achieve their goal. It wouldn't be a true one-state solution, but genocide in the other direction.
For balance, I would say that Israeli forces also want to kill all Palestinians. The difference is they don't openly say it - they're more deceptive, which is a different kind of wrong. That, and assassinating impartial journalists or sinking allied ships, makes the Israeli side very guilty in their own right.
The good solution should be no genocide in either direction. Any solution that involves genocide is inherently wrong.
Sources?
I’ve provided mine elsewhere in this thread — Hamas has explicitly stated their target is not civilians, but the Zionist state.
Israel also state they're not targeting civilians. Your sources before were official statements, just like Israel's, as well as a survivor eye witness account that said the people they met were nice and reasonable. There are other witness accounts that weren't so friendly.
Frankly, I'm reluctant to go digging for sources, because then it becomes a game of you discrediting whatever I present and me trying to find something else, without having a productive discussion. Forums are for discussions, links and citations are ancillary. Let's discuss.
Hamas have not exclusively targeted military targets. Neither have Israel, but I'm trying to point out that flipping the coin doesn't really make things any better. You, yourself, said that you "don't think that a one-state solution should involve expelling all the Jews", but that implies that there are people who do, and many of those people will kill any Israeli that doesn't leave before they meet them. Many Israelis would do the same.
Both are generally in the wrong. It is perhaps less likely for a Palestinian to be in the wrong, because they're the underdog defending, but just because you're defending doesn't mean nothing you do is wrong.
The wider issue is that no one is enforcing what is right and wrong. Israel is allowed to get away with atrocities, and Hamas is encouraged to comit atrocities of their own. None of this serves the general population living in the region, it only serves warmongers who don't have to deal with the fallout.
Edit: lol, first you make your comment, then a little later my comment gets downvoted, then a little later your comment gets upvoted. It's pretty clear that the two votes weren't the same 3rd party account, even if it might be intended to be presented as such.
Edit2: Do you really think more votes on a comment thread completely buried in a sea of other comments, where the latest comment can only be found after digging through the rest, yet with no other comments or interactions in the thread, would be seen as legitimate? Come on.
Lmao you get one downvote and you're pissed off enough you make two edits to cry foul? 😂
I'm just commentating - but thank you for identifying yourself.
Do you want to have a discussion? I'm game.