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[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 169 points 1 year ago

All you need is to completely disregard human rights and Singapore is pretty decent.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 38 points 1 year ago

Other than the gross attitude toward people from weaker country and their treament of maid as if they're dog, what other human right issue they have?

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

They love executing people and long prison sentences like it’s medieval era.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago
[-] Annoyed_Crabby 7 points 1 year ago

Well i blame the US for influence this part of the world with their war on drug campaign, and the fear of drug is the direct result of opium war. It's not even that long ago that US started to legalise recreational use of marijuana, it's kinda condescending to it in such simple way.

At least there's been multiple talk by the government of Malaysia (where i'm from) to decriminalise drug, not sure about Singapore.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

US foreign and domestic policy certainly deserves a share of the blame. And we don't even have universal legal access here, it's a shit show.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah. The issue with Singapore is they have extremely strong ruling party and nepotism run strong, so the old perspective will take some time to ease out. If there's more and more evidence piling up on medical use i'm sure they will move to decriminalise.

The only country to have legal recreational marijuana in South East Asia is Thailand, though they're about to pull back the decision.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

dang, that's a shame for Thailand - new junta, new rules I guess.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 1 points 1 year ago

Well they aren't junta, they legitimately won an election. I think you're confused Thailand with Myanmar lol

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

everyone's a junta. we've got the dem junta and conservative junta's over here vying for power. don't take it personally.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I thought it was mostly with the British and forcing Opium on the Chinese.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the story and fear never left the community, it passed on for generations and spread across the south east asia.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

well, that *technically *doesn't violate any human rights, i guess

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 14 points 1 year ago

If you don't consider living a human right

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure it's that simple, since liberty is also a human right, so punishing crimes with prison would also violate human rights if you follow that line of thinking

[-] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Mostly it does since most "crimes" and nonsense

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A few? Sure. Most? Definitely not.

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"other than abusing people from other countries, what other issue do they have"

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 0 points 1 year ago

Hey that's antisemite.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I love that I can feel your vernacular in your writing. please never change. /gen

[-] netchami@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The same goes for the UAE or Saudi Arabia

[-] corus_kt@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I live in Singapore; this comparision is deranged. The worst you could say for SG are draconian drug laws, we aren't upholding slavery and slaughtering journalists/opposition parties in broad daylight. This is like equating Taiwan to Palestine or South Korea to North Korea for fuck sake

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

The hardest of drugs: chewing gum

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's like gateway drug of crimes. JK, It all goes back to litering, gum has lots of wrappers and the inedible gum itself. No gum helps build the SG culture of zero tolerance for crimes. If you teach children even the smallest of crimes have serious repercussions they will be less likely to commit future crimes. At least that's the idea, it's easier in a rich country where people have their basic needs fulfilled.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it would teach them to fear and blindly trust authority. Which I'm sure sounds fine to them.

[-] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That's definitely one way of viewing it. I'm definitely anti-authoritarian, but the city-state has the right to agree upon a strict set of rules and standards of behavior and to hold people accountable to uphold peace and order. It's a trade-off for a life in a much more stable country compared to the US where there is always a risk of people infringing on public peace. Ranging from simple things like littering, obnoxiously loud music in public, to something more dramatic like robbery, or even getting caught in a mass shooting because some depressed guy in his early 20s bought a gun from walmart. Say what you will about their government structure but none of these things mentioned are an issue in Singapore.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

The states are a pretty low bar

[-] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They are drastically different places, that's why I compared them

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I guess, but I'm quite happy to not be living in either.

[-] shottymcb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You can swallow gum. Not sure why that myth exists. It'll pass whole and come out with the rest of your shit.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago
[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can swallow a marble too, that doesn't make it edible.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you swallow the occasional one it's fine but probably not if you make a habit out of it.

[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

for the most part I agree, and I grok SG's laws on free speech as a concession to too many religious folks bottled up in too small an area. ok.

but.

Death for marijuana? REALLY? Like... DEATH?

That's where it goes off the rails for me. deport somebody, put 'em in jail for a few years, sure, have your rules....

and fuck, cocaine? opium? heroin etc? I guess if you really need to but the mary jane? naw man... just... naw.

fan of the country, been for business, love the food, but won't visit for personal travel because of this.

[-] corus_kt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree with you - hell, we fucked over our best athlete (Joseph Schooling) just for partaking overseas - nobody gets a pass.

[-] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He's not even "our" athlete. He was trained and brought up overseas. Just happened to be Singaporean by birth.

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