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Those "green spaces" are worthless freeway medians that do nothing but attract homeless camps. Here's a street view of some of it -- complete with panhandlers and tents in the background -- so you can see what I'm talking about.
Edit: LOL, nothing like downvoting a local for telling you the truth.
? I hadn't even read your comment until now.
I don't mind your guy's opinion at all, that was what I wanted to know when I left a comment. I even started by saying that I'm not even a local precisely because I wanted the locals opinions.
You all went out of your way to downvote me though, I'm not even quite sure why.
Also yeah, those underpasses look nasty af.
Apologies; my edit was directed at someone else, then.
Still, I think your comment earned its downvotes because suggesting the vast wasteland of parking lots and freeway medians has "potential" while calling the walkable, human-scale devlopment it replaced "claustrophobic" is... frankly, just objectively incorrect. I'm not sure you realize just how zoomed-out the view is, but for the record, those two prominent horizontal parallel roads (Memorial Dr and Fulton St) are about 1/4 mile (0.4km) apart. That means if you're trying to, say, walk from your house at the southeast corner of the image to the State Capitol just off the top of it, the majority of your journey is along a 5-lane stroad overpass above a busy freeway. It's among the least-pleasant pedestrian experiences one could imagine, short of not having a sidewalk at all.
Yeah I see what you mean. I had to go on street view to get it. I hadn't even realised that it was an overpass lol. Thought it was just a road but even so, it would be a boring walk.
With the old layout you'd have a more pleasant one through the neighbourhood and such.
Also about my initial comment, even though the parks looked claustrophobic to me, I said it was likely the black and white colors messing it up for me, and yeah we're zoomed out a lot. Also, parks are almost never claustrophobic anyways, I just meant how it looked from above I guess.
The homeless don't think those "green spaces" are worthless. Without them, where do you think they go? Just disappear??
You're not actually suggesting we should accept people living on freeway medians instead of building proper housing for them, are you?
No, quite the opposite. Your choice of words...
...comes across as disgusted, as if we can't have the homeless out here visible. I'm all for helping them and have volunteered and donated accordingly, though I could do more.
A green, shaded spot to camp is a lot better than many homeless have it I'm afraid. Better than a freeway underpass if I had to choose personally.
Of course I don't want to see homeless people there, because I don't want there to be homeless people there. And you shouldn't either! WTF is wrong with you, that you want people to be homeless?!
Can you read? Of course I don't want people to be homeless, nor did I say anything to suggest that.
You're the one advocating for them to be relegated to fucking freeway medians, not me!
I wanted the city to not close the Peachtree & Pine homeless shelter so that we wouldn't have this problem in the first place!
You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for dishonestly trying to shoot the messenger for the grievous sin of merely pointing out the goddamn problem!
Nothing I said suggests they should be relegated there. I do not believe they should be driven out when they have no place else to go. Too many places want to break up their camps without giving them any alternatives... making them miserable so they'll go elsewhere. I'm all for providing shelters and raising taxes to do it. As I said, I've volunteered working with the homeless many times when I used to work in and live near a downtown area. I hope to do more in the future though at the moment live a long ways away from an urban area to do so.
Bullshit. When I implied that it was bad for them to be there (an idea that's nothing more than common fucking sense), you attacked me for it. You have been uncivil and accusatory to me from the very beginning. Again, WTF is your problem?