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Sadiq Khan hails ‘huge progress’ as progress report finds more than 95% of vehicles are now compliant

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Are those vehicles off the road though? Or have they just moved?

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It says off London roads. Which they indeed are.

London has an awful pollution problem because of its density.

The idea is to get them away from London which is what's happening.

I don't know how anyone can expect these zones to reduce them elsewhere in the country.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Me neither

The TfL director of strategy and policy, Christina Calderato, said the figures showed that the Ulez was “highly effective in taking the oldest, most polluting vehicles off the roads”.

Problem moved, not problem solved.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I suspect for the most part - problem solved. Any of those Petrol cars are going to be older than 2006, this probably gave the people the nudge they needed to buy a 2009 second hand car and get their old one scrapped.

Diesel could be up to 2015, not sure there's many families who can just find the cash for a newer car. Sounds like just stop being poor.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like just stop being poor.

You driven behind many pre-2016 diesel cars recently, really not recommended.

Moreover ULEZ was announced in 2015 - by then mayor Boris.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's that got to do with it? Do you think poor people choose to drive shitty old cars?

Moreover what? This is segregation by financial status. Poor people can go and breathe dirty air?

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Poor people do breathe dirty air. Somewhere like Harringey only 40% of households own cars. Thats the poorest 60% who have to hoover up particulates from the richer 40% and the people commuting in.

If it’s segregation by financial status it’s not the poorest the suffer.

It'll be interesting to see the pollution data when they release it. But the further it expands from the city centre, the less public transport, and the more people are dependent on cars.

It's be okay if they offered a decent scrappage scheme and invested in a public transport system so fewer cars were needed.

[-] lmaydev@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The problem of the massive concentration of pollution in London is being helped massively by this.

You're talking about a different problem.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You sound like you are trying to disagree with me, but I think we are in agreement. Confused.

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