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Top UN official in New York steps down citing ‘genocide’ of Palestinian civilians
(www.theguardian.com)
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Why is everyone so black and white on this issue? Israel has a right to exist. Palestine has a right to exist. It shouldn’t be hard to understand.
You can't 'both sides' an issue where one side is commiting genocide and settler colonialism and the other doesn't have access to clean water and electricity. That shouldn't really be that hard to understand either
Its is a ‘both sides’ issue when the Palestinian side has rejected every peace deal, commits terrorist attacks, and calls for the genocide of Jews. Nobody looks good in this conflict.
Palestinian side? What the fuck are you talking about. Stop conflating hamas with all of palestine. It's like conflating israel with all jews. You're just being racist. Hamas has also repetedly requested a cease fire that israel always refuses so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Stop trying to act like an enlightened centrist in a conflict you clearly know nothing about.
Hamas is the ruling, elected authority of Gaza. And even before them, other Palestinian officials have rejected multiple peace deals. That doesn’t mean all Palestinians are culpable, the same way not all Israelis are responsible for Netanyahu’s actions.
Ah yes just keep lying about how Israel totally didn't sabotage those peace deals deliberately.
Yeah it's so infuriating when people don't acknowledge the very clear reality that if the shoe was on the other foot then the genocide would have happened long ago.
Also this isn't just Palestine it's very clearly a lot of fundamentalist terror groups and countries like Iran. There are very real and scary threats to Israel, Hamas gets huge funding and help from so many places - which they use almost exclusively to build combat tunnels and rockets.
It's horrible for the Palestinian people but Israel isn't the only one making their lives hard, Hamas isn't about helping Palestinians it's about hurting Jews and if their own people dying helps then they're fine with it
The more I read up on the history, the more I understand Israel's "right to exist" took a huge bite out of Palestine's "right to exist". The Nakba in 1948 most prominently, and annexations in Gaza, Sinai, West Bank and Golan Heights ever since (some temporary - Sinai and former settlements in Gaza - and the rest very much permanent).
It's one thing to say an annexation of land is ancient history, but there are people alive who were displaced by Israel 75 years ago and are still living in refugee camps. We have two very incompatible things going on right now - Israel is basically screaming for blood because of Oct 7, and they are also living on recently stolen land that calls for reparations to be made to the Palestinian people - if you brought up the latter in this environment, you'd probably be accused of "supporting Hamas", but it's something that's been true for decades. Really exhausting dynamic.
Im about 90% sure at least half the comments on lemmy, reddit, insertsocialmediahere are either bots or mass targeting one side of an agenda.