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[-] blazera@kbin.social 101 points 1 year ago

The big thing is the Hamas attack wasnt the start of all this. It wasnt Israel minding their own business and Hamas invading for the glory of Islam. The warning cries of a humanitarian crisis were going off long before this recent war, from international humanitarian agencies like Unicef. Gaza was being militarily oppressed by Israel, blocking humanitarian aid, international trade, even denying access to their own waters for fishing.

Civilians were dying off already as a result of Israel, and Israel ignored the warnings, the international community ignored the warnings, and then its shocked pikachus all around as a dying people fight back for survival.

[-] leetnewb@beehaw.org 56 points 1 year ago

You can point out back and forth violence going into the 1800s. Nobody has clean hands in this conflict.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 70 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but siding with Israel here is the logical equivalent of siding with Andrew Jackson and supporting the Indian Removal Act as he committed genocide against the native people.

The power imbalance and how Israel has used it is what makes it imperative that Israel be held accountable by the international community.

[-] knokelmaat@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago

I'm glad you bring up the power imbalance. The "both sides have been doing horrible stuff" only works if both sides have equal footing, which they clearly do not. This does not negate the crimes commited by Hamas, but extremism doesn't come from nowhere and Israël has a responsibility in that.

[-] library_napper 12 points 1 year ago

Also disproportionate use of force is a war crime. We see Israel doing this in every war with Palestine since the Nakba.

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