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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 239 points 10 months ago

That's not how that works lol. You are called to testify, you are legally required to do it or face jail. You answer questions truthfully. It's not a set up, it's what happens to ANYONE who committed, helped commit, witnessed, or otherwise, a crime.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 176 points 10 months ago

The “set up” was to ask incriminating questions to someone too dumb to plead the 5th.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My understanding is they can't plead the 5th. Well they can but the judge can assume the worst if they do use it.

Apparently because it's civil not criminal it works different.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 64 points 10 months ago

He might have still been better off pleading the 5th and losing the civil trial than he will be testifying, probably losing the civil trial anyway, and also opening himself to potential criminal liability.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Better to be thought a criminal than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

[-] noride@lemm.ee 31 points 10 months ago

True, but lucky for us, he's a dumbshit.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago
[-] shutuuplegs@reddthat.com 25 points 10 months ago

They lost the civil trial already by willful disregard of the courts requests and blatant misdirection. This whole show is just to determine how much they owe. While it might be pedantic, it is fairly critical to getting the story right as to what is happening.

It’s why the questioning is going the way it is going. They could go deeper on certain questions, but the facts are already mostly clear. It doesn’t stop them from focusing on who of this gang might have lied.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

Yeah, guilt can be inferred when pleading the 5th in a civil trial because you are effectively refusing to refute anything said against you.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago

Same thing happened with Mueller and all the claims of a "perjury trap." It isn't a trap when the prosecutor asks someone under oath if they committed a crime related to the current trial. It's literally upholding the law.

If the only options a defendant has, are to say they committed a crime under oath, or lie, then they did commit a crime.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

"Perjury trap" was definitely one of the more ridiculous things they came up with. It's easy to not be caught in such a thing by not lying.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They still have the option to remain silent. Though this can lead to an adverse inference being drawn. Another option is like what Bill Cosby did and try to work with the prosecutor to secure some measure of immunity from criminal proceedings that could stem from your testimony in a civil trial. Personally I don't think Cosby should have been granted any of that and just forced to face the fucking music, but rapists gonna rape I guess.

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I think they put it in quotes because it isn’t truly a setup, but I agree that it’s still a horrible choice of words.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I think they mean set up like when you set up a golf ball for a tee or when you set up a nice free kick

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

More like when you set up decorations for a party.

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

He can’t plead the fifth without risking civil damages and can’t testify truthfully without risking incrimination

[-] skweetis@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

I don't know anything about the legal details - besides what I've read on the internet, aka RESEARCH - but I unfortunately watched the clip of Junior getting interviewed about his knowledge of GAAP and, in my opinion, the prosecutor laughed and played along with his "jokes" and he of course loved the positive attention and let his guard down. To some degree that seemed like a pretty good "set-up", but just like everything else, in a totally legal and normal to court proceedings way.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

This is just called being a good litigator.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

It's pretty easy for experienced interrogators to play someone who is overconfident and fairly dumb. It's interesting how Truump Sr. acts in these situations, though... he drops the BS and is very careful. Probably why he was worried about his sons testifying.

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