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Yeah, that's a lack of understanding on your part. John birch society, national alliance in the US. OKC bombings were largely inspired by literature put out by the thankfully dead founder of the national alliance. National front in the UK. Israel... I mean was founded in coalition with nationalist terrorists so I don't know where that's coming from.
And stormfront has been around forever. Preceding Alex Jones?
I'm over 60 so not misunderstanding anything. And you're calling Jewish people "national terrorists" is fucking nazi bs.
Gtfo asshole.
I'm calling Irgun nationalist terrorists, who were in coalition in founding Israel alongside Labor Zionists(who I don't believe are nationalist terrorists). If you don't think that label applies to Irgun you're a whole hell of a lot more fascist adjacent than I am.
Being 20 years older than me and ignorant ain't something I'm impressed by.
Shit, I posted to defend you and we weren't even talking about the same group. I forgot about Irgun, that was another one. I was talking about Lehi.
They were very close to each other regardless and both are strong influences on the current Likud.
It just continues to blow my mind that people are so unwilling to look at the beyond questionable ethical underpinnings surrounding the formation of Israel. It is and was an extension of western colonialism. I don't even see how this is remotely controversial to say, and yet a lot of people lose their fucking minds if you even bring it up.
YuuuUUUup. Spot on. The longer we go without recognizing the flawed foundation on this construct, the more it's going to fall apart. And as long as the two populations continue to accept rule from the religious zealots dedicated to promoting violence on both sides it's never, ever going to end.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/10/23/2201067/--The-British-sold-the-same-horse-twice-The-1st-75-years-of-Palestinian-colonization-BEFORE-1947?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
I hate to tell you, but this isn't hyperbolic. Israel was absolutely founded in part by an ultra-nationalist, ethno-supremacist, terrorist organization. Founding members of Lehi went on to form Likud as well.
Lehi (militant group)
Not going to claim to know their thoughts, but they said Israel, not Jews. There is a real difference. One is a government the other is a cultural identity/religion.