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[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we're going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it's like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

[-] grue@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn't before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

For every person who makes up bs statistics, there's a 1000% increase in the number of sad kittens. It's indisputably negative.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

But that’s not even remotely true…

[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is extremely 1000% true that vapes ARE IN FACT A NEGATIVE for TEMPTING NON-SMOKERS TO START VAPING.

Now quit lying!

[-] downpunxx@kbin.social -3 points 11 months ago

95% harm reduction is not marginally anything, you lying piece of shit

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

95% harm reduction means 5% harm is left, by fucking definition!

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Yeah don't let perfect be the enemy of good etc.

Because Lemmy has a relatively small user base bad takes can take up a lot of a thread. Normally those silly voices would be hidden away. By replying to them lots we let them take up more of the thread space. I'm guilty of it too, but after scrolling down I think we should just ignore that person.

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