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[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we're going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it's like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

[-] grue@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn't before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

For every person who makes up bs statistics, there's a 1000% increase in the number of sad kittens. It's indisputably negative.

[-] Redrum714@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

But that’s not even remotely true…

[-] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is extremely 1000% true that vapes ARE IN FACT A NEGATIVE for TEMPTING NON-SMOKERS TO START VAPING.

Now quit lying!

[-] downpunxx@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago

95% harm reduction is not marginally anything, you lying piece of shit

[-] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

95% harm reduction means 5% harm is left, by fucking definition!

[-] buzziebee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah don't let perfect be the enemy of good etc.

Because Lemmy has a relatively small user base bad takes can take up a lot of a thread. Normally those silly voices would be hidden away. By replying to them lots we let them take up more of the thread space. I'm guilty of it too, but after scrolling down I think we should just ignore that person.

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