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Seeing that they need quite a lot of clean water, which is not widely available everywhere during the entire year in big amounts, especially with these droughts due to climate change.

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[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Slightly off topic, there are about 450 nuclear plants on earth. A noted MIT study in 1989 estimated that each nuclear plant only has a worst case nuclear accident every 20000 years.

Statistically that would make one every 44 years.

In our history we have had nuclear power plants for about 60 years, and so far there were three worst case nuclear accidents.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but those worst case nuclear accidents have nothing on coal in terms of a death count. They sound scary, but overall don't come even close to it.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True but In 2023 the alternatives are not nuclear vs coal, but nuclear vs wind and solar. The fallout for each accident is immense. Western Europe dealt with Tschernobyl for years. Japan was just lucky that the wind blew in the other direction.

If the world triples nuclear power plants, and we deal with an accident every 7-10 years, that’s gonna be a serious problem, even if it is “just” country sized areas that become unfarmable or so.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Pitting nuclear against wind and solar is stupid given how much they compliment each other.

[-] ashe@lemmy.starless.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A study from 1989 doesn't apply to modern plants built 35 years later, it really doesn't make sense to extrapolate it like this.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While true, the study obviously underestimated the evidence we gathered in the real world. It's not simple to handle numbers with many 0 behind them, therefore it's good to have multiple approaches.

[-] jasory@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

"Dealt with Chernobyl for years..."

You realise that all the estimated premature deaths are less than respiratory issues from air pollution. We could have a Chernobyl every year and it would be an improvement.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

We can not have clean emergy because coal miners have to mine coal.

If they don't mine that coal then the whole thing falls apart.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That 3 in 60 is pretty loaded since Chernobyl simply would not have been possible with western reactors of the same design year, to say nothing of what passed as modern than and even more so now.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

It would also not have been possible with their design, if all the failguards wouldn't have failed.

But 2 in 60 years, both of western design, is still more than that study estimated.

[-] noli@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

What study is that? Can you give a reference?

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