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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.

no consequence

lmao

Trump is trying to frustrate the fuck out of Engoron, that’s why he and his lackeys have been attacking the law clerks and pushing false narratives about them like the dating a senator or donated to dems bullshit.

Engoron is weathering this storm by slowly and methodically building a trail of evidence so if this is taken to appeals based on the “unfair judge” bullshit they keep spewing about, the judge has an undeniable response to that.

Summary judgment was already granted, he’s guilty, this is about determining size of disgorgement. Trump isn’t running away with a damn thing, and I think it’s hilarious that you do.

Most people can’t piss a judge off that much without spending time in jail

Wow thanks for telling us. Guess what? trump isn’t just some fucking guy, he has a large portion of republicans that will truly do anything he asks, he has a very long history of using litigation to bully his way to what he wants and like it or not he has connections and funding to keep pulling on those same threads.

This is about letting Trump sink himself, it’s not a goddamn race to the finish line (well… aside from 11/24)

It’s almost like court justice is never swift but methodical, and it’s almost like with these cases methodical is the way to go instead of snap punishments. Thank god the judge can think past any current moment and look to the bigger picture, unlike you.

I’ll save you the trouble for your inevitable reply

b-b-but nothing has happened to him so it just won’t ever!!!!!

Try not to forget there is NO precedent for ANY of this. WE CANNOT RUSH ANY OF THIS.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

You have a bad day or something? That's a whole torrent of nastiness, and it seems like you missed the context of my comment.

The judge is letting him behave horribly. That usually gets you at least a night in jail. That's the lack of consequences i'm talking about.

If you don't think that's a big deal, consider that trump only acts the way he does because a long succession of people who could have and should have put him in his place didn't do it.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So let Engoron do it.

That is the point. This is the only path to a proper outcome. Patience will be very well rewarded with a conclusion and punishment that is undeniable and sticks permanently.

The person you replied to didn't say anything mean. They literally explained that the judge is doing exactly what those of us that want Trump to finally face permanent lasting consequences would want him to do. Whether we understand it or not.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I understand why people are itching for Engoron to send Trump to jail for contempt. It would be very satisfying in the short term. The problem is that the judge has to think long term. If he sends Trump to jail now for a day and that tanks the whole case Inc appeal, that's in the judge. So Engoron is putting up with Trump's shenanigans while building an appeals proof judgment.

Is it more annoying in the short term seeing Trump "get away with" so much with, at most, little fines? Sure, but this is what's best in the long term. Engoron has been a judge for decades. I trust he knows his job better than people whose legal experience is "I watched a few Law and Order episodes, listened to a law podcast once, and watched a few legal YouTubers." (No offense intended to legal YouTubers. I love Legal Eagle especially. But you can't assume you're a legal expert just because you watched those videos. There's a reason that it takes years to study law.)

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