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I posted this comment on ani.social and got banned from Lemmy.world:
Now, regardless of whether you agree with my stance or not, or if for some reason you are offended by the fuck word, is criticism of policy seriously an offense so egregious that it warrants a ban?
Of course it isn't.
And before somebody tries to cleverly point out "hurr durr you sound butthurt because you got banned from LW" that's not at all the point I am making here. I'm pointing out the sheer insecure pettiness of the administration at LW that they would get so bent out of shape from some criticism from a throwaway account that they would ban it on the spot.
Ask yourselves if you really want to make LW your home base, because I do not.
Edit: also lol at Antik, a LW admin, coming to this comments section on an alt account and arguing with people. Dozens of testy, sparring comments bordering on harassment. This is the exact immature behavior that I am calling out. He had to literally do nothing to get a win here, yet he deliberately chose to show his ass to everyone instead.
Edit 2: LW banned every user in this thread who posted a criticism of their insecurity, pettiness, irrationality and cognitive dissonance of thinking that "pictures of anime" are somehow all CSAM. They have brigaded this post - roughly 50% of the 100 comments here are from the admin or his alt literally harassing people simply because they stated they do not like LW. These are not the actions of sound-minded individuals, these are the actions of actually insane people.
Curious that this exact comment thread looks so different on Lemmy.ca (original instance) versus how it appears on Lemmy World.
At the time of posting this, the original thread has 13 comments as opposed to the sanitized version on Lemmy World, which has 6 comments. Naturally, all of the comments critical of LW do not appear on their version.
You sure it's not just because those comments were submitted by ani.social users during the period which the instances were defederated from each other?
It's from manual bans, not defederation. Both Butts@ani.social (the parent comment in this chain) and CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org (commenter providing a critical summary of why people are upset) are banned at LW.
At the time of writing this comment, by looking at the LW modlog you can see Butts was banned 3 hours ago because "fuck those guys" and 17 hours ago CJOTheReal was banned because "LW admins are assholes."
I am guessing those ban reasons are quotes from the banned users themselves, not the actual reason why an admin personally banned them, though that hardly makes it justifiable - in fact it does the opposite by proving that LW admins actually are power tripping and banning for petty reasons.
I nither of us gives a shit tbh, we just think they are power tripping like reddit mods. And Don't engage in their instance shithole. Btw at least one of the admins keeps following several users around like a creep constantly attacking the users and saying "look what they say" like anyone gives a shit...
Let's call them spezes from now on...
Or you could have a look at CJOTheReal post history and see for yourself.
That was sort of my thinking as well. I've been trying to get a clear answer for a ban that archived everything to show that they were just banned for criticism, and I haven't gotten a direct answer other than a claim that contradicts the evidence.
Purging an account, banning it, and then allowing them to sweep everything under the ban rug is a direct attack on the credibility of user accounts, and I can understand people not trusting a server with it when they do that, and it's even worse when those admins are capable of being charismatic so people are much less keen to question them.
That's something that abusive power mods on reddit did all the time. They tried to sweep everything under the ban rug, keep quiet about it and only give out vague reasons, and then just label the user a shithead when they inevitably then had to proceed to try to scale it up, which meant trying to attract more attention, which made people question them more, which just swept them up with the people that really deserved it, and it just became a vicious cycle.
The one big tell is that when somebody really deserves it, they don't really hide it, whereas when its much more questionable, they keep so quiet that you have to wonder whether the person in question killed anyone, which just adds to it.
You can see how their admins behave in this thread...
Uh, is @Antik@lemm.ee really Antik and not just someone trying to supplant their identity by naming themselves antik@lemmy.world? That .. just raises so many questions if so.
Yes. Its a Lemmyworld admin with a lemmy.ee account behaving like a absolute outcast.
No its the same person definitely otherwise he wouldn't be following me after they banned me from .world
He is a absolutely fragile person and a creep following others around the fediverse.
I mean, it would be pretty damning if confirmed, you should try reporting it to lemm.ee admins to see whether they can confirm this.
There are people who would troll like that just to create drama, but considering how active and reactive lemmy.world admins generally are and that they are already checking this thread out, they would probably already have at least banned them on lemmy.world. They haven't ..
I can personally confirm it because the guy said he banned my account and after checking the Lemmy.world modlog my account was banned around the same time, so its 100%
Oh wow, you are completely right: http://web.archive.org/save/https://lemmy.world/comment/5138651
He's accusing me of being you ... before, he was accusing me of being someone else: http://web.archive.org/web/20231107174821/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/5160618
Yes please screenshot the thing and send me it, the scrollshot feature doesn't work properly on my phone for some reason. Man i need this to show around how much of a shitshow their admins are.
And we are quiet obviously not the same person, i think he goes insane now.
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Imagine being you man... Even having to upvote your own comments with different accounts...
How low can you fall?
Doesn't make sense since I can not see these comments to you on LW because you are banned. Feel free to check who upvotes
https://burggit.moe/u/cookiejarobserver asking how low I can fall is something
As if you of all people just have two accounts.
Also you just post a burggit profile exclusively posting normal hentai man idk what you want from me or him...
Btw, how do you find a burggit.moe profile when you are never on such a instance? Did you search for it? Did you just see it while browsing some loli hentai?
Keep making yourself a fool please, i just can't stop laughing at you...
How would I not know about the biggest Loli instance you knobhead. Btw I know the lemmynsfw admins also, they are quite familiar with you and your shit too.
Or you go to an instance that federated with everything and you do a search for CookieJarObserver. That's how I found your alt and now you try to play it off. "It's not so bad" but also "how did you even find that hmmm"
You're not a smart man
Because sdf (the instance im on) don't defederated from anything and the guy keeps posting normal hentai periodically...
And wtf? I have nothing to do at all with LemmyNSFW I've never had any problems with them or was active there, i just browse some anime and lewd communities there from time to time, i have seriously no clue what the fuck you want from me.
Also burggit is pretty easy to find if you scroll down to defederated instances its pretty common there, most people that know about lemmy have been there at least once out of curiosity, just like Lemmygrad and (formally) exploding-heads
And tbh, they seem friendly there, way more than your instance (Lemmy.world) Shure the taste of many there seems to be pretty "unique" (and i can totally agree with you to not like it) but its nothing illigal where they are hosted.
Edit: ok didn't think about that way but still not me...
You should stop dragging it. It just looks funny at this stage. Why bother arguing back and forth and defending irrelevant things so much if you're not the said person? Why did you need a story for how you found Burggit? Are you unaware you're just making it more obvious? Just move on.
How obvious can you be having another account like that? Man the account was inactive for 25 days before this comment...
Huh? It's quite openly an account for admin collab, and there are quite openly time gaps between its content. That happens when your instance isn't very active. Again, stop dragging it with irrelevant things. You will no longer be entertained here.
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Lol enjoy talking to yourself CJO?
I posted with my main account here too. I'm @antik@lemmy.world on an alt because these accounts are banned from LW.
Could you screenshot the entire thread?
He even made a admin comment.
No CJO, it's me don't worry I posted from my main account too
Bro that's not one of my accounts you dumbass.
No surely just a random pedo defender who pops up in the same threads like you 😂
Man wtf? The guy didn't defend pedophilia, he isn't me and we aren't the only two people on lemmy. Whats your fucking point?
Yeah, I saw. Just surprised to see an admin acting this way, you've basically been quite reserved up to this point from my perspective. I was really hoping to give my suspicions more of a benefit of a doubt, but you just went and accused me of being someone else for replying to their comments...
I can't talk for your argument with them or what you are accusing them off, but you've obviously read the first of my comments in this thread, and I have nothing else to add. The only thing I am doing is what the intent of lemmy is for me, seeing how instances handle their administration to make an informed decision about how well I can trust them and participate in them. That means checking up and following up communities and posts like the one we are on. Don't let your paranoia chase your own tail.
Lemmy.world but the world is made in China...