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submitted 1 year ago by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I really like gnome and how it looks. However every time I try it I find myself in need of more functionality and so I install a bunch of extensions. For example I can't live without a dock and some sort of system tray that shows which apps are running in background.

Sometimes the extensions have small UI inconsistencies or use more memory than usual. That's why I totally ditched gnome and switch to KDE.

Also I tend to think it's been designed for people who are more comfortable using a keyboard. I'm mostly a mouse person.

Do any of you run pure gnome with no extensions? How do you cope with the lack of a dock and system tray?

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why can't we just have toggles under settings (like we did in the past for desktop icons), works for you, works for me. Everyone will be happy.

[-] fossisfun@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?

Especially desktop icons are difficult to get right (see workarounds like "ReIcon" on Windows). E. g. keeping icon positions across multiple monitors and varying resolutions and displays (which can be unplugged at any time). They can also be a privacy-issue, e. g. when doing a presentation.

But most importantly: GNOME doesn't want to be a traditional (Windows-like) desktop, so why would they implement features that don't align with their ideas for a desktop experience?

There are lots of other desktops, like Cinnamon, that offer a traditional desktop experience within the GTK ecosystem. There is also plenty of room for desktops, like GNOME, that have a different philosophy and feature set.

In my opinion it would be boring, if every desktop tried to do the same thing. And there wouldn't be any innovation, if no one tried to do things differently.

[-] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Innovation or regression? Gnome used to have optional desktop icons. They removed them. Let's settle on gnome is progressing, while keeping in mind, that progress is neither necessarily nor inherently good.

[-] fossisfun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Innovation or regression?

Innovation doesn't necessarily mean that all past functionality needs to be carried over. Actually innovation often means that past technology becomes obsolete and gets replaced with something new.

Gnome used to have optional desktop icons. They removed them.

They removed them because with GNOME Shell those icons no longer made sense. There was no longer a concept of dragging apps from a panel menu to a desktop, instead apps were now pinned from the fullscreen app overview to the dash.

Since the code was no longer used by the default GNOME experience, it became unmaintained and eventually got removed.

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