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Also older. The average Lemmy user is much older than the average reddit user. Which I would love if it stuck just to averages, but I don't think we've got a very wide range here; we need some new blood/youthful energy if we want this to thrive and grow. But as it is now, I think Lemmy is a kind of a haven for FOSS old heads for a bit but doesn't have a lot of fuel in the tank for the future, unless we see a bit of a cultural shift here.
Lemmy almost certainly needs a "cultural shift" it's way to toxic. It's probably more toxic than heroshima. one thing I've noticed myself is there's way way to many tankies. And some members of the linux community aren't so welcoming to people whom use other operating systems
Are there tankies? Yes, absolutely. That being said, is the term "tankie" being thrown around way too cavalierly and dismissively on Lemmy? Ab-so-fucking-lutely.
I thought reddit was into assigning labels to people dismissively, but holy shit it's on another level here on Lemmy.
Just like how not everyone who disagreed with you on Reddit was a Nazi, not everyone who says something you dislike on Lemmy is a tankie
edit: small typo
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to communists who express support for one-party communist regimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie?wprov=sfla1
I see way to much stuff which fits in the "tankie" category.
in my honest and earnest opinionI think these people are entitled to an opinion I also believe that these people are able to express that opinion but so are the hundreds of other communities that these people may not like I see some of these tankiesnot exclusively tankiesvictimising some of the Christian communities here on lemmy this is an example from a little research and speaking to some these people from these communities I'm sure there's many more examplesEdit : this was on top page on ml not surprising considering its an ml domain but still
https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3bd8dae8-ba7b-45b1-8eff-f9bba4d69f51.jpeg
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1de75854-4f98-4789-927d-3c8ef639dd43.jpeg
I agree there absolutely is toxcity here, particularly if you go against the majority and popular views. Lemmy users often claim and post about being so much better than reddit users when they're the fucking same
Yup exactly I agree with this. I think people are entitled to an opinion and that includes tankies. But the way alot of "lemmings" go about discussing there views and opinions is worse than reddit in my opinion for an instance there's alot of folk
assholes in my opinionraiding Christian communities downvoiting them and commenting on them I'm not Christian myself but I personally see this as despicable behavior. Especially considering there people consider themselves to be the "tolerant" one'sWhere does this come from? Because the only people I've ever heard use the term "tolerant left" were people on the right.
This is all just decorum tone-policing, a way conservatives and those in the status quo quiet dissent by holding oppositional voices to a higher standard than they hold themselves. As a leftist, I believe in equity, I believe in free expression, and I believe in not judging others by their intrinsic and immutable qualities such as skin tone, familial background, and appearance. But I also absolutely believe in judging people on the defining characteristics they choose for themselves: their words, their actions, and their beliefs. I'm left as fuck, but I'm not going to tolerate hate, or exploitation, or evilness; don't call me fucking tolerant.
To that note, you'll notice religion (in terms of belief, not background; there are some cases where this muddy) falls squarely in the "what I believe" section, meaning that is the kind of thing we should judge a person's character based on. And tbh, since Christianity, especially Western popular evangelical Christianity isn't exactly a neutral or non-impactful influence on the world, why should it be spared legitimate criticism? If we leftists believe in building a better world by repairing or tearing down and replacing broken systems for the sake of the betterment of mankind, why is that particular system (which again, is not neutral on non-impactful in influence) supposedly off-limits? Why are you okay with us raging against all of the other machines oppression but that one? Why are you okay with the righteous work of changing minds and educating others against governmental structures but not religious ones?
Somewhere down the line conservatives tricked leftists into thinking that "don't judge people for their skin and background" should stretch to "don't judge people for the literally insane shit that they believe despite the fact that the insane belief will literally inform all of their choices, both legislatively and personally," and it is absolutely fucked that so many leftists have fallen for it.
Don't judge people for what they are; do judge people for what they do, what they say, and what they think.