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Just a reminder that this isn't caused by lack of nurses. This is caused by a lack of salary, and a lack of support staff being hired.
Don’t forget being treated like absolute shit by people who think browsing YouTube on the toilet is “doing research”.
Just like teachers.
I’m so tired. Just trying to get to Thanksgiving break at this point.
12 hour shifts certainly isn’t helping any either.
Knew some nurses that did 3 12s and then had 4 days off. Seems like it could be nice on one hand.
My neighbor works in the NICU. She does 3 12s. She then does two more for the overtime pay. I don't think she's the exception anymore.
It's horrible to watch someone burnout just to support their family..
Until it ends up being 5 12s in a row becsuse they are understaffed...
This is me!
The 3 on, 4 days off, 4 days on, 3 days off cycle of 12 hour shifts is what I do as in-home health care for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities!
And as a manager, I absolutely do get stuffed into covering 5 or more days. During the pandemic I was doing front half days (Sunday Monday Tuesday) back half nights (Wednesday Thursday Friday). And it's hell!
They increased our pay to $15 an hour in my state as an emergency order so we could finally get some staff, but it's impossible to get enough people and don't even talk to me about quality...
TO $15/hr? Jesus, I hope you live in a low cost of living area.
I do but not low enough for this.
Bro our warehouse workers start at $20/hr full time with benefits, you're not getting paid enough.
I know. But I literally take care of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. As in, cerebral palsy. As in, if we quit, these people will have no care.
I really respect and appreciate you doing this for them. I hope you all can unionize and get better wages for yourselves.
My grandfather needed similar care before his death and I'm pretty confident I'm going to need similar care at some point in my own life. The average person really doesn't appreciate how they can become disabled. So thank you, and good luck advocating for yourself. I'm sorry you're so underpaid.
but you'll get called-in for mandatory ot on day one off of four; which then turns into a back-to-back. then for good measure, your last day off will be cut short as you're called-in early.
IDK my gf works in ICU and loves it, she works 6 days straight and gets 8 off.
12 hour shifts aren't all that terrible, as long as you actually get off on time and are paid well for working the appropriate amount of time (whether that's 3/4/4/3 or 5/2/2/5, or 2/2/3/2/2/3, or any other schedule that gets you close to the standard hours per week). I've done 12s for about a decade, and haven't had any problems with it aside from occasionally running into schedule issues because it's hard to predict what day you'll be working/off without calculating which week of the pay period it is.
It all returns to how much work you have to do in those 12 hours. Having even a few minutes of downtime repeatedly throughout a shift has been going the way of the dodo, and that's going back to the original point of poor pay and fewer people to do everything needed.
100% correct. I am a nurse who hasn't worked for 3 years because of childcare costs
Don’t think it’s the money honestly. Wife was an RN for 2 hospitals over 10 years and the reason she left to go private practice is because of the lack of support. Hospitals only care about the $ and, so called, patient rights, which comes at the expense of their staff’s word. She was rarely backed even though the patients or their families were lying 90% of the time.
She could make 2x as much at the hospital but chooses not to go back because of how miserable she was there. Screw them.
Well, that's the point really. If the job is that bad, you need to offer hazard pay or people find alternatives.
That may keep some but in my wife’s case there isn’t an amount of money that would get her back in the hospital systems.
a friend used to be a nurse. still works in health care, but in admin instead. stable (and flexible) hours, better pay, and has been able to work from home since before wfh became a hotbed topic (several years before covid, due to space issues at the facility at the time).