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Am I the only one who gets bunch of posts from leftist and even communist subs/circlejerks in their feed? It's kinda weird to see genzedong and similar popping up in hot/rising feed. This just hopefully some of the growing pains of a new platform.

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[-] evh@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 year ago

All the deaths from labor camps and non-conforming parties is facile?

[-] Kurt@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

The way the VOC people count them, yes. They include Nazis as victims for goodness sake. You can't take it seriously.

[-] evh@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 year ago

I just look at numbers. Once you start discounting certain human lives over others, it all becomes dangerous.

[-] Kurt@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

You're the one discounting lives. The murder rate for the Holocaust was at least 1.25 million per year and they had plans to keep going. The dubious allegations in the Black Book of Communism don't even come close to that kind of efficiency and completely discount the lives saved by having defeated the Nazis, which would not have been possible without the USSR's incredible sacrifice. It's one thing to have resentment for communism. It's just incredibly messed up to say that it's as bad or worse than Nazism.

[-] evh@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You do realize what side the USSR was on at the beginning of the war right? Stalin and Hitler wanted to be allies. I arbitrate they are equally horrible, yet you are defending a communist dictator.

[-] Kurt@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

Calling the relationship between those countries an alliance is a big stretch. For all its leniency towards Germany during the interwar period, you'd have to call the US an ally to Germany as well, nevermind its infamously conciliatory treatment of the Nazis after the war (ie Operation Paperclip and the relatively rapid abandonment of denazification in West Germany). Furthermore, the US did not begin actually fighting the Nazis until after the USSR, and not until they were compelled by the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Regardless, we know what the Nazis did while they were in power and, as I previously cited, we know what they were going to do if they had prevailed. The fact is that after about four decades of Soviet rule, the Poles and other Eastern European peoples still exist and have thrived in comparison to the ethnic cleansing and extermination they would have faced under a victorious Nazi regime. Anyone whose family actually had an unfairly difficult time under the USSR has my condolences, but at least you're still around to express your resentment!

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