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First planned small nuclear reactor plant in the US has been canceled::NuScale and its primary partner give up on its first installation.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Even if that's true, what are you going to do about it?

Say you do a whole lot of research, and conclude that loosening regulations x, y, and z will not impact safety in any measurable way, and will substantially reduce costs. Even detractors with scientific credentials agree this research is solid. Best case scenario, here.

NIMBYs will still kill it. What you just did is hand them a way to say "they are cutting corners using unproven methods to let their investors line their pockets at the expense of the lives of their workers and everyone who lives around it".

They may be wrong, but their arguments in front of a government body can still be persuasive. They don't have to be right, just vaguely plausible to people who aren't experts. That will be enough to kill it.

You can't beat NIMBYs by having the best argument. You need to plan around them. Don't hand them a weapon before the fight begins.

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So nimby will appose everything. Want to build a solar farm nimby, what to make a wind farm, nimby. I have people turn against a wind farm once they learned it would make electricity for their city but for the whole power grid. Simple because they learned other people would be able to use that electricity. How dare something they can see help the other. Making the build time and cost better helps build around them.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Sure. What is your plan for dealing with them?

[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I dont know. They are a problem for everything everywhere.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've seen a major local building developer work around them. To be clear, I think this developer is an asshole for other reasons, but he knows how to get around NIMBYs.

He presents an apartment complex. A few people in the neighborhood don't like it, and act like they represent everyone. Some city meetings are setup to discuss it. What he'll then do is suggest a few things as compromises that aren't really compromises. They might be things he wanted to do in the first place, but didn't think the city would have allowed it otherwise. If the people complain about the height, he'll suggest cutting a section of the top floor to create a balcony for a "penthouse suite" (he'll rent that one out for a premium and lose nothing in the end). Compared to the NIMBYs, where 90% of their arguments are bullshit and they look like raving loons, he looks like the reasonable one. The city council nods sagely and approves the project, perhaps without any alterations at all.

What he doesn't do is give NIMBYs ammunition before this process starts. You can't loosen nuclear regulations and expect for this to work.

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