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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 16 points 1 year ago

Completely indefensible for Hamas to be anywhere near a hospital containing civilians. Completely indefensible for Israel to bomb that hospital. Monsters fighting monsters.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 16 points 1 year ago

When elephant fight, the grass suffer.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 1 year ago

Good one, I might have to steal that.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 4 points 1 year ago

I did not coin that lol, it's an African proverb

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 2 points 1 year ago

It's still good, and I'm still stealing it.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. Though honestly, if they had taken the command center or anything like it, we’d have photos of said command center being put out on blast.

I’ve grown extremely skeptical of everything coming out of the area- on both sides. That the best evidence we have is some aerial photos marked off, some videos of doctors and patience’s being rousted and some 007: golden eye-quality CGI…. It raises questions.

Is Hamas using civilians medical infrastructure as a shield? Probably. Is it justification for bombing the shit out it? Definitely not;

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that this isn't anything close to evidence. These weapons could've come from anywhere until someone actually confirms they came from the hospital. They were already caught fabricating evidence once relating to this hospital being a Hamas command center.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, certainly if they have proof of a supposed command and control center, they can do better than a dozen guns, some ammo, a few bullet proof vests, and some wd-40 that could have brought in in a couple of backpacks.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Gaza is a warzone... I would expect every hospital to have a room locked with some guns, munitions, gear and probably a few grenades.

What else would a hospital do with that stuff then make some poor cleaner or orderly lock it all up? Do you know how to safely dispose of a grenade? Because I sure as hell don't, and I doubt doctors or nurses do either.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

If a hospital is being used as a staging point for military forces, it's a legitimate military target. That's why militarizing hospitals is wrong.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Israel knows it's a war crime but they try to use a loophole by crying out about Hamas tunnels etc.

Under international humanitarian law, hospitals and other medical facilities are considered to be protected civilian objects. Unless they are used for military purposes, they shall be protected at all times and may not be the object of attack.

So that's why they're so happy to show us some 9 rusty old weapons. Witnesses say they stripped and tortured 9 men already inside the hospital... I wanna make a bet here they found shit and are now torturing people to find shit. They blacked out communications so they even dig those tunnels themselves to show us for all we know.

Also I would like to point out that they don't allow outside sources in to confirm, investigate or even verify all their claims. So it's not true until they do that for me personally. I don't care what Daniel from IDF 'claims', I want it verified by unbiased sources.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

So you admit that they are legitimate targets.

[-] Zippit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe AFTER there is legitimate proof provided, verified by independent outside sources instead of just 'IDF says.' Nothing they say after the last month of indiscriminate killings will be believed. They're met with the same kind of criticism and disdain the Hamas military brigades get.

Even then, patients and civilians still have the right to be evacuated in a humane way and timespan.

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