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Where I am there are hills everywhere. You know that old joke about walking five miles uphill to school in the snow, and ten miles uphill to get home? That's here. Plus, it's the UK, so when it snows, the roads and pavements are lethal.
Plus, some people have kids under 5 😉
More seriously though, because of the amount of hills, and the fact that most people work all day, bikes are not the best option here. The nearest supermarket is several miles away with a lot of hills in between. If you've got plenty of free time, riding to the shops with the kids could be fun, but for most people public transport is the answer. It's just a shame that it's terrible here .
Well I live in Sweden and we have snow here too buddy. Lousy public transport sucks though, but that's what you get in a carcentric society, no options...
Exactly, you live in a country that doesn't shut down because of half a millimetre of snow. We genuinely get public transport shutting down if there's snow, and we've infamously had trains stop running because of the wrong type of leaves on the line. For a country that mostly has adverse weather conditions, we're absolutely useless if the weather's anything but dry and sunny.
I honestly don't know what we can do here to get better public transport and encourage people away from cars. Once you're further down the valley, there's enough room to build other transport methods alongside the roads to allow a transition, but further up, there's barely enough room for cars to pass each other in some places, which means that buses would struggle too, and there's no room to make a one way loop to free up space either.
Yup, that's us. We walk, use transit, or the kid rides on her bike child seat.
E-bikes exist if you don't have the legs to tackle those hills yet.
I'd love to get an ebike, but at the moment the price is too high, from what I've seen. The cheapest ones seem to be over £1,000, unless you get the little fold up bikes, but they don't look like they'd be comfortable for a long ride where you're pedaling lots.
A gravel bike style would be better here too, simply because we're in the valleys, and lots of the trails are a bit rough.
Back to the point though, getting to the shops and carrying a week's worth of shopping on a bike with young kids is impractical here. It would be great if it was practical, but other than the hills, we don't have the infrastructure for the most part. The roads have to be shared, even if it's just for now, and there are lots of stretches here where there's not the room for bikes with motor vehicles, and especially not on the pavements. This time of year is even worse - it's dark in the morning and night, and the weather is usually crap. All of it increases the risk of accidents, and that's the last thing any of us want.