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Sam Altman’s ouster at OpenAI exposes growing rift in AI industry
(www.washingtonpost.com)
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Yup, been saying this wave of "AI" is a fad, the cracks are starting to show...
How do you think that something people are already using to type out dull, routine emails is some kind of fad? It saves time, if you don't have to spend an extra minute typing out a routine confirmation email, why would you?
Being a fad is relative. Something that's hugely popular and being brought up in every industry as a world changing technology for a while before normalizing as something useful in a few areas but not a good fit in many others qualifies as a fad in my book. Most tech fads never go totally away because they're not useless, they were just overblown.
Generative ML models certainly are useful and extend what we think of ML traditionally being capable of doing. But the current worldwide AI madness is not due to the merits of Gen ML, it's because it's marketed as AI (which to 90 percent of the population means what AGI means to nerds) and makes people think "we're about to be in terminator any second now" when in reality it means "hey my autocomplete isn't totally crap anymore"
Gotcha. I think you're right about fads, and I agree.
I love how your reply everyone agrees with that this is another tech fad...just like the .com boom...yet my reply has everyone disagreeing with calling it a fad lol.
You nailed it though. I don't know how many people I've talked to who think this is legit terminator level AI...or nearly there.
I feel like there will be a backlash to this. As a recipient, what do I get out of reading your routine confirmation email that I wouldn't get out of reading whatever (presumably more concise) prompt you used to generate it?
Maybe people will find better ways to use these systems, but so far most of what I've seen is text that is bloated without any useful information being added. I think we'll get to a point pretty quickly where that is considered less polite and less professional.
generating emails that is the worst possible use case of ai. just send me whatever you feed the ai to generate the world salad. i don't need the word salad, there is nothing wrong with being brief and to the point.
Because sending and receiving dull emails isnt real work. AI has only replaced bullshit, so far. It just isnt worth the billions these companies claim it is until they find a product and sell it.
It's a shame no one has invented copy and paste yet.
Hello,
Thanks for your message. I'll check the sales figures out as soon.as.I can.
Best regards
Norgur
I couldn't have opened any AI thingy in the time I typed that.
Okay, now imagine you have to type out a formal email but are typically shit at that kind of thing.
That was a formal email.
But imagine you were shit at writing formal emails. Sure, right now you can knock something like that out sooner but that's because you know how to do it.
Because it's not AI and it never was. Calling a t9 artificial intelligence was a great marketing but zero substance
But what if we're just a very fancy T9 too?
You way overestimate this tech. I work in this field. We do not have fast enough anything (storage/ram/CPU) to do what you think it can. We need ubi sure, but this isn't the leap everyone thinks it is. It's still dumb tech and just follows what humans feed it. Do remember that less than 40 years ago everyone was still using paper for everything, now one person can do what 20 did in the past with a computer.
Until you see robots walking around, this tech isn't the apocalyptic expectations you think it has.
When quantum computing actually takes off then you can start worrying
Doesn't sound like it from the shit you posted below that literally just says you used it lol
I'm not at all, you're the dude who started screaming what about the farriers when cars started taking over...that literally what you're doing right now.
Lol ok Mr. 200k lines of code lol
Lol sounds like you're a pretty shit dev if you are putting in 200k lines of code from AI into prod...that or you're full of shit...which either way it's a really dumb argument to use. I'd fire you if you were doing that shit in my company. No way you're checking over 200k lines for cohesion or security issues. Sounds like outsourced devs all over again, where the code is a fucking nightmare of shit.
You can scream and shout all you want but it's not replacing humans any time soon. Sure it's great for augmenting us but it's not replacing us.
So wait.. you're using AI gen code in prod...to make sure the AI gen code you didn't write works?
No dev is out there using AI to write prod code, they're using it to help, but a ton of the code that AI spits out is trash and they know it. If you put in over 200k lines of code yourself, you're not checking it and whatever you are rolling out, is probably swiss fucking cheese in the security department.
Naa I'm not a greybeard at all, I'm just not a panicked fad follower who thinks the advantages of LLMs are going to replace everyone down to a single guy named Roger who has AI write him 200k lines of code for prod.
Shit what AI are you using that spitting out documentation as well as properly formatting? Sounds like you got a gold mine on your hands...
O I'm not saying it won't, just like they did in 08 when the outsourced everything to code farms in India and shit canned a bunch of senior devs only to find out the code is trash and not documented at all...same thing is going to happen here...it's a fad...hell even the cloud was a fad and a ton of it's starting to come back in house.
Sounds like you got it all figured out. Have a good day.