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Hamas had not planned to attack music festival, Israeli report says
(www.aljazeera.com)
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I don't care about what you've said outside of right here right now. You say it's totally hamas's fault, that's just factually incorrect. You cannot judge this by limiting time scales, it all matters and it all has an effect on every other action.
No one said two wrongs make a right, you're just conflating things.
No I said that particular event is the fault of Hamas. Please don't misquote me to peddle a narrative.
I'm talking about this specific incident as well, it is factually not all Hamas fault. I just said this directly.
So you are saying the IDF deliberately targeted civilians during the massacre?
I didn't say that. I said isreali police are attributing deaths to the IDF essentially friendly firing and also stating that the publicized numbers are not correct because some of those casualties are idf not civilians and a fair number of those dressed as "civilians" without question are conscripts. The waters are muddy and Israel is doing nothing but stirring shit up with gross hyperbole and intentional civilian casualties they admit to.
Israel holds the narrative due to the wrong Hamas did. There is not really a lot Hamas can complain about. Israel is never going to make any efforts to put Hamas in a good light. I really do not see your point.
Israel won't no, but they don't have to, people like you and me are what cast the light that expells shadow not governments to think otherwise is absurd.
Bro hamas isn't the one here that has to be the adult considering most gazans aren't adults and most hamas fighters are barely barely adults generally sub 26yr old.
While Israel and Hamas pursue an agenda that pushes the annihilation of the other party, then there will never be peace. Israel was in the process of the population attacking that agenda. This attack from Hamas destroyed that. There needs to be a desire for peace. The west should not be funding Israel when it wants to hold onto any form of racial harassment.
Agreed.
Interesting how that is that a right wing pseudo dictators plans start eroding and when they reach fever pitch their existential threat becomes a very real threat which led to right wing policies surging in popularity. And what's this? The same dickhead has been paying them millions and millions of dollars to Hamas in sketchy backdoor cash only deals he kept from the public. Ooh there's more? What's that you say? Hamaas is the name of lehi's newsletter? That's a weird coincidence huh?
The West shouldn't fund Israel at all.