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[-] pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world 158 points 1 year ago

Not an expert on this at all but I feel like it's less of "the human race is going to die out" vs the owner class needs cheap labor and bodies for war to continue infinite growth.

My running theory is in the United States, Republican's obsession with abortion is tied to the fact they need poor and broken families to pump out kids for future cheap labor and the prison industrial complex to make a nation function moving forward. That and the gray sunami of a upside down pyramid with not enough young to take care of the older generations (I think Japan and China are experiencing this currently).

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well in Russia it's about replacing all the kids and men dying in Ukraine. The Russian losses are staggering and Russia is basically throwing their people into a meat grinder.

If only a fraction of a percent are coming home "after the war" Russia is in big big trouble regardless of population growth or shrinkage due to other causes.

In the USA I'd agree it's about cheap labor. They don't want to let the Mexicans in too so gotta keep those white babies flowing.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Russia has like 500 million people, they could send 499 million to their deaths and they would be fiiiiiine.

Most of their economy is oil and gas extraction which doesn't require a very large labor force. They can just outsource exploration to Europeans corporations anyway.

[-] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

No, their population peaked in 94 at about 150M. They definitely have a serious population/demographic crisis. Arguably it's one of the reasons Putin decided now was the moment to escalate in Ukraine, before it's too late. Also why they're taking Ukrainian children.

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