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submitted 1 year ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/climate@slrpnk.net

I'll note that for most purposes, when people talk about going to 2°C above what it was in the late 1800s, they usually are talking about the long-term average, not one-day events.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yes. If we all had a boat load of cash to just install solar panels and buy other shit to make things more green... But oh wait. We don't have that kind of cash in today's economy...

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

... because all that money is already allocated to the oil industry and the weapons it needs to keep going. If only there was some solution.

Also the problem isn't actually solar panels but grid storage, which itself would be significantly less of a problem if we didn't keep dumping money in to cars and car-centric infrastructure.

Most people don't realize that divesting from cars wouldn't take a massive investment but would actually be much cheaper. Parking minimums and suburbs are completely unsustainable. Building bike infrastructure is cheaper than maintaining car infrastructure, and it allows for increased density that increases property values and increases local tax revenue. Cars are massively subsidized, from direct subsidies to the auto and oil industries, to infrastructure like free parking, to all billions in Oil wars. We could literally just stop doing things that hurt us and come out ahead.

It's like we're smoking and making up excuses about how we can't afford to quit.

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I live in mandatory car land. The older I get, the more I hate driving and dealing with insurance, traffic, registration, maintenance, fuel, and inspections.

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Money spent generally = emissions.

It is cheaper to be greener in many cases. Pork/chicken/turkey/rice+beans are cheaper than beef. Gas sippers are cheaper than canyoneros and monster trucks. Bicycles, transit, and shoes are cheaper than cars. Reasonable housing is cheaper than a McMansion.

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