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submitted 11 months ago by spaceghoti@lemmy.one to c/politics@lemmy.world

There's a spectrum of ways to reform the House using proportional representation. Two key factors are how many representatives a multi-member district would have and how winners of House seats would be proportionally allocated.

In 2021, Rep. Don Beyer of Virginia led a group of other House Democrats in reintroducing a proposal that's been floating around Congress since 2017. The Fair Representation Act would require states to use ranked choice voting for House races. It calls for states with six or more representatives to create districts with three to five members each, and states with fewer than six representatives to elect all of them as at-large members of one statewide district.

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[-] hh93@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

You could do it as Germany does it and have a first past the post for local representation but then scale up the size of the parliament to actually represent the amount of relative votes per party.

Tbf right now that makes our parliament the 2nd biggest in the word which is fucking expensive but at least you have representation and actually having your vote matter in region that's deeply one-sided against for party

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Doing some back of the napkin math.

US House of Representatives are paid $174,000 US Dollars Annually (https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL30064)
If we assume that that number represents half of their total compensation (to include stuff like healthcare and any other benefit they get) that brings us to $348000 US Dollars.

The German Bundestag has 736 members currently and Germany has a population of 84,482,267 people (both pulled from Wikipedia) That means you have 84,482,267/736 = 114785.688859 people per representative. Lets round up to 114800.

The US has a population of 333,287,557 people (per Wikipedia) so we would need 333,287,557/114800 = 2903.20171603 representatives, call it 3000 to be easy.

So if we followed Germany's representation we would cost the US taxpayers 3000 * 348000 = $1044000000 so just over a Billion dollars a year to fund just their salaries and healthcare and stuff. That is an eye-watering number and larger than I expected when I started this stupid journey.

For context though, in FY 2021 The United States allocated $740.5 Billion dollars to the Department of Defense (https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/2079489/dod-releases-fiscal-year-2021-budget-proposal/)

So that is roughly 1/740 = 0.00135135135% of the Defense Budget. Seems more reasonable that way. I'd much rather fund more and diverse members of congress to actually do things that fund military contractors building bombs to blow up Palestinian children.

Anyhow not sure why I did that but it seems like it'd be fine to expand the House of Representatives if we think we can do it in an equitable way.

Let me know if I got anything wrong about the German Bundestag, I have no prior knowledge other than what you told me and what I grabbed from Wikipedia

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

And it's not just the salary for the representatives but they all also have a state-paid office and staff - so yeah...

There have recently been reforms to make the districts bigger to get less direct representation in total resulting in a smaller size overall.

I'd expect that especially with a 2-party system it's not as bad as you calculated though since the worst problem here is that a local party from Bavaria is winning almost all the direct representation spots there but gets way less votes in total in Germany which results to every other party sending way more people than they would need

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