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I kinda feel there's a false equivalence there. I can't kill arbitrary people as a result of exercising my first and sixth amendment rights.
Doesn't the right of others around you to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness have equal standing? Seems reasonable to me to take steps to ensure you are less likely take away life by accident or malicious intent.
Y'know, we really ought to pass a law that makes it illegal to kill people...
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness aren't Constitutional guarantees. Nor is the statement that all men are created equal. That's the Declaration of Independence. ;)
I didn't say it was.
So we no longer find these truths to be self-evident, because they are in the wrong document? Fair point that the standing is therefore not equal. Nonetheless I quite value my life, and find it reasonable to expect my armed neighbors to be trained in a way to minimize the risk to me from from their 2A rights.
Still true that exercising the 1st and 6th don't empower you to kill any random person you see. The court's argument is a false equivalence.
No, because while the Declaration is a founding document, it has no legal bearing on the United States. It was literally declaring our separation from England and serves no purpose beyond that.
So what about the rest of my comment?
First amendment, absolutely you can, you'll just get prosecuted for it same as if you shoot someone. See Trump and January 6th.
No no. I can't say a magic word to my neighbor because his dog pissed me off when it shit in my yard and cause him to drop dead.
Nor can I non-maliciously say a word by accident that causes some random person in my vicinity to die.
But if I'm an irresponsible gun owner I can do both those things and more. Hence the false equivalence here:
Sure you can, that's why Trump is facing felony charges for January 6th.
I'm not sure how you think I'm describing stochastic terrorism or inciting a riot other than to conclude you are being intentionally obtuse. Good day, Sir.
You argued the 1st amendment freedom of speech can't end up getting people killed, I cited a current example where it very much did.
I was much more specific than that. I find you disingenuous and predictable. Also, I said Good Day, Sir.