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this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2023
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Context clues
The weather today is nice at 22, but back home it was -10 last week.
I’m in Europe and traveling. How do you figure out the second? If I am American it’s not going to be converted, so that would be F, almost every else would be C.
Context can’t help you in a lot of situations.
22 would rarely be nice in F unless (context clues) we’re in a bad winter but going to a much worse one.
Yeah the first one you can get context from the current weather, but the second is the one that lacks any context without additional conversation. You know what provides the context easier? Saying Celsius of Fahrenheit.
I mean I guess. Someone who switches systems between sentences sounds like a deranged outlier though.
It is incredibly tough to have conversations with Americans who think local means their units yes.
They don’t even realize they do it, it’s 22c where they are, so that’s what they refer to, but back home they use their local units there. Both are local, they aren’t changing anything like a deranged lunatic. They just fuck it up since they never denote units ever.
Simple concept really.
True lol
Where would you be living if 22F is considered nice weather?
That would be 22 Celsius, I even gave you a place for context for that one.
Your example just proved my point. The context for the second one is that the first one is clearly Celsius. Why would you ever change units?
I suppose if this were a conversation about imperial vs metric you'd give me the example of wanting a 50cm board that's 2 thick and wondering how the reader was supposed to know you you didn't mean 2 inches
I gave you the example, an American would accidentally switch when talking about the weather back home last week as it would be Fahrenheit in a Celsius county. How does that prove YOUR point lmfao.
Why would an American use two different units in the same conversation
They use Fahrenheit 99% of the time, the only time they would ever use Celsius would be for current local weather when traveling.
Very few people would remember to make the change, and you’re only lying to yourself if you don’t think the vast majority of people would make the mistake. Like it happens all the time when conversing online or IRL already and you want to claim people are smarter than that? Sure buddy…. Why do you think this post exists…? Because it happens lmfao.
I think you're the one lying to yourself if you think the vast majority of people would just forget to specify. That wasn't a realistic example of a common conversation about weather in my experience
The vast majority of people will since they know to when conversing, but the vast majority of people aren’t American….
Americans specifically, who we are talking about, don’t since they aren’t use to it. Americans don’t make up the vast majority of people, so you’re not wrong, but that’s not what was being discussed in this specific case.
Americans was the key word, and again, this literally already happens… hence the is post and discussion. Burying your head in the sand and pretending this already doesn’t happen is quite frankly asinine.
And yes, I know I’ve upset Americans and are being downvoted solely for pointing out the mistake they all make without realizing it.
Americans would just...give both temperatures in fahrenheit. Unless phones have started changing measurement units based on location.
This conversation is different than OP's because you're saying it's common for people to switch units mid-speech
I’m assuming you are American and therefore don’t converse with other Americans much while abroad. If you’re in Europe, the weather forecast is in Celsius, you would be seeing 22 everywhere but your phone. When conversing with someone, unless you’re a complete arrogant ass (well these are Americans and you admitted to doing the same and now everything makes sense….) you would use the local units. So you would use Celsius, than slip up when following g up about your local place.
Again, this is already an issue an happening, you just don’t notice it from your side point of view. Hell most won’t even realize they made the folly.
And it’s not different, you said you could tell by context, I provided you a very real situation that already happens that would not allow you to tell the unit by context. And now you’re arguing completely different points.
The inverse even happens in the states when getting visotors, most visitors use the local units and slip up when talking about home, but they usually denote units already since they know it’s an issue when conversing with Americans. It’s a real thing if you don’t choose to ignore it because murica.
Somewhere where it gets to -10F. That's like the difference between 50F and 80F
100 degrees
Tell me if that's in fahrenheit or celsius
Hint: it has nothing to do with the weather
Well you haven't given the context. We can't guess the context and the units.
If somebody has a fever of 100, F. If you're cooking, C. If it's weather, F.
You're cooking, so boiling water
Didn't say I was cooking either
There's other things outside of cooking that are very tempreture cooking like science for example