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You are correct. Not using oil in one place, will only make it MORE AFFORDABLE for China and other mega pollution providers.
Except 1) we sent our rubbish there and dumped it in the water, air and dirt, and it doesn’t stay put, 2) it doesn’t stay put, 3) we sent manufacturing there to avoid paying people minimum, let alone livable wage. How shallow thinking is amazes me.
This is a good thing for the people of both nations tho
No it isn’t, neolib.
It very objectively is. Their people stop subsistence farming and our people get cheaper goods.
It's not like we're hurting for jobs.
Now they get suicide nets and we get three jobs and a side hustle. That’s so disingenuous and just because fash lite party said it doesn’t make it okay to parrot it.
Oh I'm sorry do you want a factory job? I can get you one no problem. I work in corporate for a large manufacturer.
Whoosh
Just saying we have way more jobs than people in mfg, which is why I said "it's not like we're hurting for jobs"
Probably because those jobs mostly suck and treat humans as machinery. *edited out tmi.
I don't follow - you don't want things to be manufactured?
I want the people to own the means of production.
That's not ever going to happen.
Certainly not any time soon.
What the h does that have to do with anything?
Fact of the current global economy is: you buy less oil (etc), other will snatch it up very quickly.
Myopic much?
Sorry, but facts remain facts. Lots of good things you can do for nature but spending less oil just for the heck of it will probably mean some other country WITHOUT FILTERS IN THEIR CHIMNEYS will use it, at Lower price.
And that’s an old paradigm that must die. I rebuke your negativity. We have the power but some would deceive us into thinking we’re bound. I rebuke that too.
Sure, but it's a real life situation that you won't admit too. Other ways are needed between "saving" and banning
I didn’t say it isn’t. It’s sad that not only are we post-implicit and post-explicit communication. Thank you, Southern Strategy!
And that’s an old paradigm that must die.
Paradigm means “pattern” or “model.” I can’t think of any one syllable words to make it easier than that.