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[-] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

How can you say no one supports Hamas when there's news clips and plenty of photos of Green flags being flown at rallys? There are unquestionably people who support Hamas amongst your countrymen.

If you supported the Palestinian people, you'd be supporting the removal of Hamas. I don't agree with Israels tactics but I fully support their goals.

[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

That’s very disingenuous of you to say. Did you not read my comment? Or did you cherry pick a single point to twist its meaning. I said that the Irish people were well versed in militant organisations committing atrocities in their name. Who do you think might be hoisting hamas flags?

Look, we all know this is hideously complex, with bad actors and innocent victims on both sides. But how can you support Israel when they are continuing to settle Palestinian land with government-protected settlers, demolishing the entire region, killing innocent civilians.

You know what stopped the troubles in NI in the end? Diplomacy.

[-] S_204@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I read your comment to the point where you lost credibility. You're saying no one supports them when there is clear support. Take a step into reality and then the conversation can continue.

Both sidesing this is fucking bullshit too. One side is clearly saying they're not going to stop. Once they are removed there's a chance for diplomacy.

[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 0 points 11 months ago

Oh my god are you still on the hamas flags that the Ira used to march with? I’m sure if you look close enough you’ll find Israelis who support Hamas. If you can find a verified, recent photo, I’ll believe you. But it’s certainly not widespread and not mainstream.

And how many times did the Ira and the uda say they’d never come to the table? Diplomacy works. And without wiping out a population, it’s the only thing that works.

[-] S_204@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

Hamas is still saying they're going to massacre Jews. They're saying it on TV in Arabic for everyone to hear.

When they stop calling for genocide, the deaths will stop. They're not going to do that though, they have less respect for human life than you seem to be able to acknowledge.

That you're defending those who carry the flags of terrorists is utterly disgusting but you've already established who you are with your comments so I'm past being surprised. That you're intentionally ignoring what the world witnessed just reinforces your bigotry for anyone who sees your comments.

[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

What the absolute fuck, you’re wilfully not understanding me.

I said that the Irish people were well versed in militant organisations committing atrocities in their name. Who do you think might be hoisting hamas flags?

how is that defending anyone carrying terrorist flags? The exact opposite: they’re fuckwits, who have no say in Irish political discourse any longer. But in the recent pro-Palestinian marches in Ireland, there were Palestinian flags, but no Hamas flags.

How can anyone expect a terrorist organisation to stand down when every atrocity is reciprocated ten-fold? Logically, that sort of response just leads to escalation.

All of Gaza is not Hamas. The vast majority are not combatants in a war. They’re just normal people, caught in the crossfire, watching their homes get destroyed, dying. That’s who I support. Fuck Hamas. Fuck war.

[-] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm hearing you loud and clear. you're covering for terrorists and their supporters. End of story. Trying to obfuscate or deflect doesn't work and it's plainly obvious that the Irish see an ally in those who shoot pregnant women waiting at bus stops.

Also, and you're likely intentionally ignoring the fact that gazans overwhelmingly approve of Hamas attack on October 7, based on the polls released last week. So yet again you're providing cover for terrorists. Seems like a theme with you. The claim that Palestinians aren't Hamas or don't support them is fading by the day. The mother fucking UNRWA teachers are holding hostages, to reinforce how deep the rot is. That's not to say all gazans or Palestinians are Hamas, that's clearly not the case. Far too many of them are though and far too many who aren't will die because of their fellow gazans actions.

[-] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

I’m going to leave it there mate. Too many logical fallacies to even bother any more. Good luck to you, hope you’re delighted when the Israeli forces have “accidentally” bombed the last of their own hostages so they don’t have to hold back any more.

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