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Then Toyota has some magic power that all the other car companies I work with don’t
I know Tesla plays fast and loose with NHTSA regulations, but I doubt Toyota will
This battery technology will have to pass safety inspections, just as Li-ion
Test it in existing vehicles, can even do it discretely without the public knowing. Also can be done in lab as well.
Why would it be magic to make a replacement battery, and how would they be playing fast and loose?
If they had the ability to test it in a vehicle, they would be shouting about it from the hills rather than this “maybe it might be possible” report that keeps getting shared
It would be magic to get it into a vehicle in 2028. Every other car manufacturer has finalized their designs past that by now, and aren’t going to risk such a massive change this late in the design process
This is part of why the infotainment systems in cars tend to suck. They’re finalized about 6 years before the car goes to market
Once they have a functional prototype they can do all that, they still have 5 years. As a replacement battery you could retrofit it to any vehicle, so the model year is totally irrelevant.
Some vehicles you’re able to update the infotainment system to more recent version, so maybe not the best example.
I don’t know how else to explain to you that you have to have a street legal vehicle to sell from the factory.
You’re welcome to mod your car, and you probably won’t have issues, but that’s not how it works for new vehicles
The 2022-2027 model year of one of the biggest manufacturers is using a chipset from a phone from 2016 in their infotainment. Yeah, you’ll get some minor updates, but they’ve recently cancelled any more major updates since the chip is dead. And it’ll still go into cars until the next unit they designed last year enters production in 2028
Of course you do. Why would Toyota making a replacement battery to change out in production make it not street legal?
Nonono. You can swap infotainment 4 for infotainment 5 for example, OEM as well. Nothing minor about that, even comes with trim plates. I don’t know what point you thought you were making with a very real OEM replacement on existing vehicles. If anything it reinforces my point that it’s entirely possible.
Because an infotainment system isn’t considered safety critical…
Once they pass safety tests for this new battery, which will take many years, there might be an option for an after market modification, but as the other engineer in this thread tried to tell you, it’s kind of unlikely
Uhh the infotainment system that is paired and works with the safety systems isn’t safety critical…? What…?
The engineer that missed my original point, but now agrees that it’s possible?
Again, not after market at all… OEM factory compliant replacement. If you want to argue a point, make sure you are atleast not confusing and conflating things.
Just admit that it’s possible, yeah it’s unlikely, but the fact they already allow 12v sealed acid with other battery types should be a enough evidence for the average person it’s possible. You can argue a million different avenues that make it not possible. But how does that change we already do it……?