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[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Well, but that doesn't explain anything. Of course you can always go deeper with "why" questions and at some point you have to be satisfied, but asking "why are they being cunts?" is not going too far. Being a cunt usually has no benefit and is not desirable, so using it as an explanation for human behavior is not sufficient.

The answer should include the supposed reason why conservatives think being a cunt would be advantageous to them, i.e. why they're choosing this over other beneficial behavior.

[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

but asking “why are they being cunts?” is not going too far.

I don't agree with you on this. The phrase "being a cunt" implies that you have some choice in the matter; you normally are not a cunt, but you choose to be one for some reason. I don't think that applies for conservatives. They aren't choosing to be cunts any more than a dog chooses to be a dog. They are cunts. Therefore, they gravitate towards conservatism. Conservatism is the ideology of cunts.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

There have been previous conservatives that stopped being cunts, disproving your claim by simple counterexample. It's definitely a choice (as much as anything that we do is "chosen"), it's not some inherent property of their being.

[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I suppose I was being a bit obtuse there. To be clear, I don't believe that conservatives are wholly incapable of change. Just, you know, mostly incapable of it. Some people will surprise you here and there, for sure. In the main, though, they are small-minded, angry, mean-spirited people prone to homophobia, sexism, racism, xenophobia, and classism. Basically, every possible shit thing that a person can be is represented in their outlook on life. It's the kind of outlook that requires you to be a shithead to hold it. Hence, conservatives are cunts.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No one is saying conservatives aren't cunts. All I'm saying is that it's not sufficient explanation for their behavior, people don't just wake up and say "golly, today I really want to be a complete cunt". No, for them, they're the heroes of their stories, the only ones "doing good", yet for everyone else they only come across as cunts. All I'm saying is that an explanation has to include their internal reasoning for why they think they're the hero of their story.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago

This thread is so boring and unfunny.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago

Who are these conservatives that stopped being cunts? You can't be a conservative and not a cunt. It's baked into the ideology.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I'm saying they stopped being conservatives.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Really gotta s p e l l it out for some folks

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

I'd beg to differ and say a lot more of them are assholes. Many of them are pretty self-aware, they just don't care. You know that song Sweet Dreams?

Some of them want to use you Some of them want to get used by you Some of them want to abuse you Some of them want to be abused

A lot of conservatives just see struggling people as an opportunity. They think, in order to maintain wealth I need to make life harder on other people. They see black people getting locked up for marijuana possession and think, oh... that person will be on probation and be desperate for a job that I can pay minimum wage and treat them like garbage. They see forcing women to have babies that they can't afford as people in poverty that they can take advantage of. If you think they do what they do cause they are merely stupid, then your more than likely going to end up a victim in their game.

[-] Techmaster@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Being a conservative doesn't make them a cunt, being a cunt makes them conservative.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

You're trolling, right? Have you really never met or heard of a cunt that leans politically progressive? I assure you, they exist.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

I'm satisfied with the answer "because conservatives are cunts". If you're looking for a deeper answer, you won't find it. Just accept it and treat these people accordingly.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But there is a deeper answer, there always is.

In this case, we have much worse socialization today. There's no sense of community anymore, no natural places to go to meet people, families are smaller, it's much easier to pick up and move somewhere else ending up in an unfamiliar environment with no friends, and so on and so on.

If you have bad socialisation, you end up with bad social skills, so you end up being rejected everywhere you go, so you end up wanting to control people so they have to stay with you, so you don't end up alone.

Thus the fantasy of getting a woman to agree to marriage and not being able to leave is appealing and secures these people voters.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Lmao, based off these other comments ur gonna have to dumb it down for 'em

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

It's too easy to think no farther than "lol they just suck, doesn't matter why". The topic is over, you can feel better (superior) and don't have to deal with anything difficult.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

You were one of the only voices of reason here...
🙏

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 11 months ago

Conservatives being cunts is not a modern phenomena. You are assuming modern changes caused an ancient consistency.

Like saying that recent video game trends are the origins of skin cancer.

[-] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

There is a deeper point yea, but sometimes the deeper points just come back full circle to "they're cunts".

Sometimes there isn't though. Sometimes cunts are just born naturally and that's just the way people are.

We can get into family systems and their environments, stages of development, and apply any and every psych theory we can; blame it on the lead, the microplastics etc. and they're still cunts at the end of the day.

[-] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

But there is a deeper answer, there always is.

It's just a comment on the internet

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Being a cunt usually has no benefit

hard disagree. being a cunt often has strong immediate benefit.

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