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For those who are unaware: A couple billionaires, a pilot, and one of the billionaires' son are currently stuck inside an extremely tiny sub a couple thousand meters under the sea (inside of the sub with the guys above).

They were supposed to dive down to the titanic, but lost connection about halfway down. They've been missing for the past 48 hours, and have 2 days until the oxygen in the sub runs out. Do you think they'll make it?

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[-] Seven@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The idea here is that messing up due to unforseen problems and things that couldn't have been included in calculations is a "part of the experience" but messing up due to recklessness and disregarding required safety features isn't in my opinion. Daredevils and adventurers would first and foremost work on safety so that they can keep on doing their extreme stuff. We can go to the space, to the very bottom of the ocean, to many other places, and we can do these because we have been careful. The times when we messed up are usually when we could call it like the infamous rocket explosion of NASA, which the engineers did try to warn NASA before launching it, only for NASA to disregard those. In extreme adventures, safety is a golden rule and death is a rare possiblity, not something to expect.

[-] pineapplefriedrice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Lol, we aren't able to do "extreme stuff" because of safety, we're able to do it in spite of that. We would advance much faster if we didn't value human life, full stop. It's one of humanity's biggest, albeit necessary inefficiencies. That value isn't the norm either - throughout history we've generally been pretty comfortable with the expectation of death in exchange for advancement, and we owe a lot of our modern knowledge and technology to people who suffered for it. You're taking a tiny sample size, i.e. the western world for the past 60ish years, and pretending that it reflects a precedent. To the extent that you need humans, safety and risk are always going to compete with one another, and human life is always going to be disposable to some actors.

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