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Biden Administration to Overhaul Welfare Following ProPublica Reporting
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Ah the mask comes off!
You're actually claiming that the better outcomes of other countries has "nothing to do with government programs"?? Literally nothing? Even a hyper conservative rightwing ideologue, if they are intellectually honest, would admit that government programs have some effect. Such black and white thinking.
You say it has to do with "culture and societal homogeneity"? I've heard this racist dogwhistle before. And sure enough you go on to blame immigrants as "part of the problem". Contrary to what you say, immigrants to the US commit fewer crimes than non-immigrant Americans. Contrary to conservative stereotypes, immigrants to the US fare very well on most metrics.
When you say "societal homogeneity" and lack of immigrants, how do you explain Canada, which is one of the most racially and culturally diverse countries in the world, more so, in fact, than the US? Canada has way more immigrants per capita than the US, and Toronto has about the same proportion of black people as LA. Canada has many more Muslim immigrants. And yet, poor people in Canada have much better outcomes than the US. Crime is a fraction of what it is in the US across the board. Universal publicly funded healthcare, one of the best public education systems in the world, and, as of a decade ago, a direct cash transfer program to poor families have all lowered the poverty rate. It is insane to claim that this has "nothing to do with government programs", and that Canada is such an alien and different culture to the US.
I am not the cartoon monster you're so keen on fighting, but I think you're the type that looks for windmills to joust at online. I'm not interested in engaging in a pointless debate with someone who has already decided I'm evil. Go play Hero somewhere else.
I didn't say you're evil. Let's not focus on hurt feelings. You made specific claims, and I gave arguments against them.
Better outcomes have nothing to do with government programs. That is an extreme position. I have never heard anyone endorse it with a straight face until now. Obviously, no economist left, right, or centre believes anything this extreme.
Immigrants cause problems in the US. The data does not bear this out. In the US, they commit fewer crimes and there's no evidence that immigrants treat their children worse or educate them poorly. This is just false.
Other countries do better due to culture and societal homogeneity. I gave you a concrete counter example of a country that is as similar to the US as possible in almost every way. In fact, Canada is more diverse, and has more immigrants. And yet, the outcomes are much better across the board.
If you're being intellectually honest, you should be willing to modify your beliefs based on argument and evidence, not just double down.