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Two Hamas gunmen open fire at Jerusalem bus stop, killing three
(www.reuters.com)
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So long as one side is very deliberately planning and praising the explicit targeted murder of civilians, this isn't going to end.
Israel is absolutely doing a lot of harm and it's by no means any kind of angel, but what it doesn't do is this. There is a meaningful difference between collateral damage and deliberate murder of civilians (even if that's not going to be any consolation to anybody affected by violence, of course)
I may get downvoted for this, but I don't know that I fully agree.
Collateral damage implies there were valid military targets being struck.
I know Hamas doesn't exactly have bunkers and sandbags to shoot at, but the imagery coming out of Gaza looked a lot like an entire nation rolling up to a metaphorical bus stop and cutting loose.
There is nothing just about what Hamas is doing or did here, and I'm so tired of having to include this caveat. But using an entire military industrial complex to perpetrate the same acts on a horrific and unimaginable scale doesn't qualify as collateral damage.
I agree. Hamas is evil and needs to be stopped, but Isreal clearly doesn't care about civilian casualties. They don't even seem to be pretending.
This is the definition of over-retaliation. Like if you compare the severity of the atrocities, it's like Hamas slapped Isreal in the face, so Isreal grabbed a hammer and started bludgeoning.
Yeah Israeli leaders are planning and praising the explicit targeted murder of citizens. Netanyahu has supported Hamas for years because it delegitimizes the Palestinian state (and that source is The Times of Israel in case anyone thinks I'm being biased)
It boggles my mind that so many people don't see the far right Israeli government (that is so closely allied with America) is copying the George Bush War on Terror playbook.
I absolutely agree Hamas is a terrorist organization, but what the Israeli government is doing is far more sinister and evil. They're just playing the long game and hiding behind "collateral damage" so they can further their apartheid.
I mean can we mention that the Israeli military literally absorbed multiple terrorist organizations into itself with ribbons patches and metals for..... Killing mostly civilians in the name of Israel.
Finally someone else says the obvious
Yeah, the nation with superior technology gets to hide behind 'collateral damage' in an asymmetric war even if they kill (checks notes) 10x more civilians.
How can you call it "collateral damage" when you drop bombs on an inhabited city? That's intentionally targeting civilians.