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[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 121 points 1 year ago

What the actual fuck⁈ “Batteries can catch on fire.” Sure, whatever could go wrong with a 1000l tank of FUCKING GASOLINE.

AAAaaaaHHhh I hate people!

[-] mriguy@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Going with the “batteries catch on fire argument” is stupid. “Batteries are heavy and expensive” is probably more compelling. But yeah, wires are better solution for things going in fixed routes.

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The ammount of water required to put out a normal car is infinitely less than the amount required to put out a battery fire.

Not to mention the extra weight, nor the retention loss per recharge meaning we need to change batteries every 2-4 years polluting a lot more, we ain't even talking about the energy loss when doing the conversion to electric and then again to mechanical.

The electric transport is the way to go in the future, but firts it needs to have a solid foundation, and nuclear is the way to go at least in this moment. Otherwise we are only making things worse.

Edit for those wondering about the battery degradation: https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

and nuclear is the way to go at least in this moment.

Nuclear is about to go away, looking at the statitics.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nuclear is about to go away FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK German government

[-] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Frankly, I don't mind as long as I can get enough electricity at any time of the day.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So you don't mind paying 40 cents/kWh?

[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

That would be if we had nuclear only.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, there is a push against nuclear and for renewables and prices are going up. Something something ccorrelation causation

[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Might have something to do with Corona and most fossil gas coming from russia, don't you think?

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And shutting down clean and safe nuclear power, yes. Why do you think we were so reliant on Soviet natural gas?

[-] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Aside that nuclear power is neither safe nor clean. Who do you think is the main supplier of Uran? It is... Russia!

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia provides our Uranium because we chose them.

And nuclear isn't safe since? https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/

[-] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be paying that anyway for renewable power given the geography of my country, where nuclear is impossible (ABSOLUTELY impossible). If someone could cut the natural gas from our energy pie and give us clean electricity as a replacement we'd be grateful, given our limited space and relative lack of renewable resources.

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And I'm paying that thanks to the German government who made us reliant on cheap and "clean" Soviet natural gas instead of making our own power with our own resources. But hey, shifting emissions to Siberia is easier!

[-] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Atomausstieg was plain stupid, agree. But legitimately. I have no idea how my country will survive decarbonisation. We're a tropical island; we have money, but not much else with regard to resources anyway.

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah.... not really something I want to see happening.

Ideally solar + nuclear could be the solution we need.

[-] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

I thought he wanted nuclear energy in cars?

[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Small nuclear reactor in your car is stupid, but I would love if every city had its own nuclear reactor. Central power and heating!

[-] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm aware of the Nucleon, that is why I don't want this in my car. But, I would love to have a tiny nuclear reactor in my neighborhood substation or something

[-] SinJab0n@mujico.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why would I want a ducking bomb under me ? No, I want I city with solar+nuclear power energizing public transport and THEN maybe u could use a battery personal vehicle to move like an autonomous trolleybus.

My problem with "electric" cars right now is where the energy comes from.

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